cancel2 2022 (08-16-2019)
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cancel2 2022 (08-16-2019)
Hello StoneByStone,
I have tried the APP section. Not enough volume of posts. I like the main pages. More discussions. More activity. And I can hold my own just fine with the given tools.
You have replied to a post which is over a year old. It was one of my very first posts here at JPP. As I reread what I wrote over a year ago I now see that I was spot on with every single point. My approach has proven wildly successful. I didn't know if it would work here, but I can now say that it has worked quite well.
By stringent and prudent use of the Ignore Feature it is possible to be a regular at the cesspool of JPP and have a completely polite and clean posting experience free of the nuisance of trolls.
Placing everybody who trolls you on Ignore does not lead to having nobody to talk to. Rather, it leads to having more intellectual conversations which are focused on the topic of discussion and avoid the distraction of talking about one another. Check my page. I have lots of friends. I have also de-friended several posters who went off on me and got placed on Permanent Ignore. Those who remain are good people. Good to me. Lots of them.
I think there are a lot of posters who enjoy entering into discussions with me because they know I am not going to attack them personally. I represent a safe diversion from the normal risk of talking to trolls. I mean, let's face it. You know what you are risking when you talk to a troll.
Who is a troll? Well, a lot of people who don't think they are trolls? They are trolls. They just don't want to admit it. They get these long-standing feuds going. No matter what the subject is, many threads go downhill pretty quickly. There might be a page or two of actual discussion about the OP, but once those preliminaries are out of the way the gloves come off and the insults fly. The funny thing is that many trolls can turn it on and off at will. Some have better control than others. But it is amazing. I see people launch into really nasty attacks on others but when they talk to me they tone it right down because they know if they go off on me I will stop talking to them. And they like having a safe person to talk to. They know I am not going to attack them, so they can let their guard down and freely discuss a subject.
Discussing a subject is ostensibly the real reason we all come here, isn't it? I think so. I think all the trolling is just bad habits. Most people never think about trying to decide what habits they have. They just never think about it. Most people like their habits and they don't want to change. Maybe they lack the confidence to believe they CAN. I simply wondered if I could and tried. Once I found out the power of habit control I was hooked. What a feeling of empowerment! It felt so good I knew other people would enjoy it too. So I share my views on that here.
I know most people are not in the right state of mind to want to make deep personality changes in their own psyche. They are not receptive to this kind of message. That's fine. I just toss it out there once in a while in case there is one individual who is ready for some self-improvement. And it should be noted that this technique of editing one's own habits? Goes far beyond chat forums and online trolling. I did it to improve my fuel mileage, diet, fitness, personal spending, drinking, interpersonal relationships, work efficiency, lots of things. It's powerful. But it is only for those who want to use that power. Only you know who you are.
If you have a habit you want to change you can do it if you try. An effective method is to think of a better habit to replace the unwanted one. Then, every time you have the urge to do the old habit, you just consciously make yourself do the new one. Do that for 2-3 weeks and presto. You no longer have to think about it. Your new better habit is established. We don't have to let our habits control us. We can control THEM.
Good posting begins with good habits.
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
Cancel 2020.2 (08-16-2019)
I have realized an unexpected bonus to having a strong PIP.
Since I don't internalize any of the common nastiness found here, I don't even think like that. My thought patterns are clean, so I don't take any bad habits from this place into real life. I don't do a lot of assigning of fault. I see differences more than fault. I don't get into nasty arguments with people because I have learned to identify where conversations move from useful to pointless. Sometimes a tactical change of subject or just shutting up is the thing to do. It's awesome. Arguing doesn't have to be mean-spirited. If somebody has a point, they have a point.
I can get into political discussions with real people in real life and really discuss different points of view without having it devolve into insults and bad feelings. The trick is to stay on politics and not begin talking about one another, not make it personal.
Not everyone can do that, so I can also tell, usually from the beginning, if others are uncomfortable with such a conversation. Some people just can't talk politics without getting angry. If it's instant and strong the thing to do is just walk away from that person or subject. Others just have a built in defensive habit, but if their fire is not raging it might be diffused with a non-challenging response. Something intriguing, but not blaming in any way, might get the conversation past the stumbling point.
Part of my logic for having a PIP with stringent rules is that I wish to make my time here as efficient as possible. I'm not here to just kill time. I have a purpose. My mission is to learn. I know I am not going to turn any conservatives liberal, so I don't even try. I think people appreciate that. What I want to do is learn what's going on in the world, and why others believe what they do. Cutting out all the personal strife cuts out a lot of wasted time. If I were to get into some name-calling flame war, I'm not learning anything. So to me, that's just a waste of time. By only reading mostly posts that really talk about politics, I stay on task to accomplish my goals more efficiently.
To all those whom I have on Ignore, I'm sorry we are unable to talk, but it's nothing personal. It's about taking care of my psyche and making best use of the time I spend here. I'm sure some of you wish I would give you a second chance. No, I am sorry, I can't do that. The one and done aspect of it for chances, coupled with having people talk about me and complain that I am 'unreasonable' serves a purpose to me. That lets others know that I am not kidding, that I am totally serious, and I stand square behind what I say. I make every effort to explain where I am coming from up front and warn people what is going to happen if we can't talk plainly and nicely.
I hope everyone enjoys their visits here as much as I do, whether I talk to you or not. I have my own way of doing this, and there's nothing wrong with that. I recognize that there is nothing stopping people from creating a new name and starting over with me, so if you really want to share a mutual respect and know what that's like that option is always available. You could even use it to tell me off, but that would be a lot of effort for one blast. As soon as it is clear there is no mutual respect I'll place anybody on Ignore, new poster or old. And the thing is that other people are able to do what I ask, so if you can't then it ain't my problem. Sometimes ya gotta just look out for yourself, and an internet chat room is totally one of those times.
I would totally invite anybody to adopt my approach and copy my PIP, put it into use. It's a big challenge, because you would have to give up your own bad habits if you demand others do the same. I think that is a big stumbling block for many, but ya never know what you can do until you try. And what do you have to lose? Some bad habits? You could change your life. I changed mine. Nobody else decides how you conduct yourself but you. Enjoy!
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
evince (09-20-2019)
My latest Ignore List:
Anarchon
Arminius
AssHatZombie
Bigdog
blades
Bobb
BodyDouble
Boris The Animal
Buck Tucker
Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez
Cancel 2018. 3
Cancel 2018.2
CFM
CharacterAssassin
CookieCrusher
coolzone
countryboy
Dark Soul
deadcatbounce
Death Watch 2020
DonaldvoTrumpovich
Eagle-Eye
Earl
Enlightened One
Evmetro
Getin the ring
Granule
Guille
Havana Moon
I Love America
iewitness
Into the Night
Irish
katzgar
Legion
Life is Golden
lisasanders1964
Lord Yurt
Loving91390
LV426
OG Yurt
PostmodernProphet
PraiseKek
Proud Boy
Ralph
RB 60
rhym3pays
Robo
Sailor
saltydancin
SmarterthanYou
Steven VanderMolen
Superfreak
Teflon Don
Terri4Trump
Text Drivers are Killers
The Ugly Truth
tinfoil
Tkaffen
Tommatthews
Truth Detector
TTQ64
USFREEDOM911
Vasquezrocks
volsrock
Wolverine
Yurt
zymurgy
Personal Ignore Policy PIP: I like civil discourse. I will give you all the respect in the world if you respect me. Mouth off to me, or express overt racism, you will be PERMANENTLY Ignore Listed. Zero tolerance. No exceptions. I'll never read a word you write, even if quoted by another, nor respond to you, nor participate in your threads. ... Ignore the shallow. Cherish the thoughtful. Long Live Civil Discourse, Mutual Respect, and Good Debate! ps: Feel free to adopt my PIP. It works well.
I merely use their posts as billboards to repeatedly plaster the truth over
I post for different reasons than most here
I post to get the truth OUT
it started the day on came on the internets
I came in late 2002 when I realized Bush was lying us to war in Iraq
I thought all the people needed was the FACTS and the Proof of those facts
I was sweet as hell and NEVER insulted anyone
I still got accused of insulting people anyway
I was called all sorts of boring insult names
after a few sites and a few years I figured it out
being nice to certain people gets you no where
I post for the people who READ these pages
Not for me
not for the other posters glee
I post to GET THE FACTS OUT IN THE AIR
I have seen it work
I have seen the media begin reporting things that I posted and were being ignored
The election cheating by the republicans begin to be reported on
I once began talking about how the right merely called a candidate a poopy pants based on no facts Until people just believed the poopy pants lie
I saw Carl Rove say it in reverse about losing an election to Obama
I called republicans sociopaths YEARS before it began to be said all over the media
this medium is the NEW TOWN HALL
people listen to what we say folks
Its a cheap as hell and comes to you at the click of a button
its information on what argument works and cuts through
I post on the manner I post out of calculation
exposure
I am funny so I use that tool
I am creative so I use that tool
people want to learn about this stuff
I make it funny
yes its dirty
but its funny
I space my lines and post in a conversational manner that falls right into the human brain
every site I have been on has an increase in traffic
People read what I posts
thank you gentle readers
they know when they read my stuff they will get documented FACTS that they can go verify and repeat when discussing it with real people
I am here to teach and entertain
its basically right up my personality anyway
I am on the earth to embrace TRUTH
Truth has always been what soothes me even when the world gets chaotic and filled with lies
Truth will always lead you out of the chaos
It is now doing it as we speak
lies ruin EVERYTHING on the face of the earth
those that embrace lies will never be free or truly happy
I march for truth
I entertain people for the sake if truth
I bring the facts for the sake of truth
truth is my master
reality is the ONLY place I want to be
without the full truth you will never know the true reality
and will always be a prisoner of lies
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