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    Default White Democracy transition to a Multi-Ethnic Democracy...

    My entire adult life I have been an observer of American culture and how politics reflects it. Everytime we experience an upheaval or a major change in political structure, as we are watching now, it illustrates to me a new perspective on who we are.

    I never realized before how incredibly biased and focused we have always been on Male-White-Anglo culture. Then looking up and around I see that all world wide democracies are mostly influenced and built upon a single culture, sometimes that base changes as is the case in South Africa, but it flipped, South Africa did not become a multi-Ethnic Democracy, it is still a single Ethnic democracy, run now based on a majority from a new culture than it was before.

    America's strength has always come from our diversity, while at the same time we have also always been ruled by a Male-White-Anglo supermajority.

    We are faced with a new upheaval, as intentionally happens based on the design of our Democracy every 25 years or so. We faced the choice between Kennedy and Nixon in the 60's, it happened again when Bill Clinton, the first baby boomer president took over, and it is clearly happening now. This time it is bigger and I think more significant as it represents not just a generational shift of new thinking, but a shift in the culture we will use to shape our way going forward.

    President Obama represented a first attempt at a sharp turn from an Angol-White culture representing the people with an angry counter insurgency pushing hard to respond with their values and principals. The struggle in the last 6 years of the Obama years was fought between Congress and the Presidency.

    For a variety of reasons, resentment from the entrenched Male-White-Anglo faction, made it possible for them to take the presidency and maintain the Congress. We saw the struggle play out in the ideologies of the candidates during the election. Interestingly a struggle broke out in the Republican party between members who are open to adopting portions of the new multi-cultural governing coalition and those almost openly hostile to anything that might represent this move. Now we face the mid-term election and the boundaries of the battle are starting to develop, it looks like the Republican party is in trouble as it appears a coalition of those who are voting for their own political identity coupled with those willing to accept a compromise allowing a greater variety of values to be in the mix are more fired up than those fighting to maintain the old way.

    If the Majority changes in Congress, if there is a coalition of those fighting for their own minority and those accepting of those minorities, the battle will shift once again from within the Republican party to a larger field represented more likely between Congress and the President. It will be very interesting to see where he stands if the President is faced with a power center that is more centrist, considering his tendency to revert to the mean after sometimes making statements more friendly to the new front. Will President Trump become more of a centrest as he is faced with a requirement that he work with liberals in order to make any deals?

    Will America make the transition to the worlds first Multi-Cultural Democracy, I say yes... we are (always have been) a nation of great people of many cultures, just now we are going to start having a Government that reflects that. It might take two more presidential cycles, the fight might go on, but as the older generation dies, the newer one will take over, as always happens, and the more modern version of America will emerge stronger than ever.


    Please share your thoughts and criticisms. I am interested in your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    My entire adult life I have been an observer of American culture and how politics reflects it. Everytime we experience an upheaval or a major change in political structure, as we are watching now, it illustrates to me a new perspective on who we are.

    I never realized before how incredibly biased and focused we have always been on Male-White-Anglo culture. Then looking up and around I see that all world wide democracies are mostly influenced and built upon a single culture, sometimes that base changes as is the case in South Africa, but it flipped, South Africa did not become a multi-Ethnic Democracy, it is still a single Ethnic democracy, run now based on a majority from a new culture than it was before.

    America's strength has always come from our diversity, while at the same time we have also always been ruled by a Male-White-Anglo supermajority.

    We are faced with a new upheaval, as intentionally happens based on the design of our Democracy every 25 years or so. We faced the choice between Kennedy and Nixon in the 60's, it happened again when Bill Clinton, the first baby boomer president took over, and it is clearly happening now. This time it is bigger and I think more significant as it represents not just a generational shift of new thinking, but a shift in the culture we will use to shape our way going forward.

    President Obama represented a first attempt at a sharp turn from an Angol-White culture representing the people with an angry counter insurgency pushing hard to respond with their values and principals. The struggle in the last 6 years of the Obama years was fought between Congress and the Presidency.

    For a variety of reasons, resentment from the entrenched Male-White-Anglo faction, made it possible for them to take the presidency and maintain the Congress. We saw the struggle play out in the ideologies of the candidates during the election. Interestingly a struggle broke out in the Republican party between members who are open to adopting portions of the new multi-cultural governing coalition and those almost openly hostile to anything that might represent this move. Now we face the mid-term election and the boundaries of the battle are starting to develop, it looks like the Republican party is in trouble as it appears a coalition of those who are voting for their own political identity coupled with those willing to accept a compromise allowing a greater variety of values to be in the mix are more fired up than those fighting to maintain the old way.

    If the Majority changes in Congress, if there is a coalition of those fighting for their own minority and those accepting of those minorities, the battle will shift once again from within the Republican party to a larger field represented more likely between Congress and the President. It will be very interesting to see where he stands if the President is faced with a power center that is more centrist, considering his tendency to revert to the mean after sometimes making statements more friendly to the new front. Will President Trump become more of a centrest as he is faced with a requirement that he work with liberals in order to make any deals?

    Will America make the transition to the worlds first Multi-Cultural Democracy, I say yes... we are (always have been) a nation of great people of many cultures, just now we are going to start having a Government that reflects that. It might take two more presidential cycles, the fight might go on, but as the older generation dies, the newer one will take over, as always happens, and the more modern version of America will emerge stronger than ever.


    Please share your thoughts and criticisms. I am interested in your opinion.
    Too long?
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    nope its just fine


    the cheating in elections was not figured in as much as needed


    I think the change will be AMAZING once we stop the republican party from cheating and embracing Russia

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    Contributions from Russian oil executives[edit]
    In December 2005, the Washington Post reported that, in 1998, a group of Russian oil executives had given money to a nonprofit advocacy group run by a former DeLay staffer and funded by clients of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, in an attempt to influence DeLay's vote on an International Monetary Fund bailout of the Russian economy.[42] Associates of DeLay adviser Ed Buckham, the founder of the U.S. Family Network, said that executives from the oil firm Naftasib had offered a donation of $1,000,000 to be delivered to a Washington, D.C.-area airport to secure DeLay's support. On June 25, 1998, the U.S. Family Network received a $1 million check via money transferred through the London law firm James & Sarch Co. This payment was the largest single entry on U.S. Family Network's donor list. The original source of the donation was not recorded.[43] DeLay denied the payment had influenced his vote. Naftasib denied it had made the payment and that it had ever been represented by James & Sarch Co. The now-dissolved law firm's former partners declined to comment due to "confidentiality requirements".[cita



    in example of how long the Republicans have been influenced by Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Too long?
    No ... too booooogus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    nope its just fine


    the cheating in elections was not figured in as much as needed


    I think the change will be AMAZING once we stop the republican party from cheating and embracing Russia
    I think your change would be amazing if you'd quit kissing Obama's asshole and asking people to grab your pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_De...oil_executives


    Contributions from Russian oil executives[edit]
    In December 2005, the Washington Post reported that, in 1998, a group of Russian oil executives had given money to a nonprofit advocacy group run by a former DeLay staffer and funded by clients of lobbyist Jack Abramoff, in an attempt to influence DeLay's vote on an International Monetary Fund bailout of the Russian economy.[42] Associates of DeLay adviser Ed Buckham, the founder of the U.S. Family Network, said that executives from the oil firm Naftasib had offered a donation of $1,000,000 to be delivered to a Washington, D.C.-area airport to secure DeLay's support. On June 25, 1998, the U.S. Family Network received a $1 million check via money transferred through the London law firm James & Sarch Co. This payment was the largest single entry on U.S. Family Network's donor list. The original source of the donation was not recorded.[43] DeLay denied the payment had influenced his vote. Naftasib denied it had made the payment and that it had ever been represented by James & Sarch Co. The now-dissolved law firm's former partners declined to comment due to "confidentiality requirements".[cita



    in example of how long the Republicans have been influenced by Russia
    The writing was on the wall for WASP Supremacy when the United States bought Catholic Louisiana. A big portion of our history has been a history of chipping away at that WASP supremacy. History and culture of the South derives from the Caribbean plantation economy which is very very different from the Magna Carta derived history and culture of the North. Power is never given up easily so people gaining their rightful power is always a difficult struggle. I spent virtually my entire life as a northerner but spent the last three years in Baton Rouge Louisiana. The people of color here warn their children against the old white men. I frequently see young whites and young blacks hanging out together and married and even living in the same neighborhoods. I also understand there are towns in Louisiana that are noted as a Haven for white nationalists. The American experiment has been a long and difficult one and will continue into the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Too long?
    Too boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    this is a liberal country


    the republicans have been subverting Democracy for decades
    Lol, that must be why conservatives control 90% of the government in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    My entire adult life I have been an observer of American culture and how politics reflects it. Everytime we experience an upheaval or a major change in political structure, as we are watching now, it illustrates to me a new perspective on who we are.

    I never realized before how incredibly biased and focused we have always been on Male-White-Anglo culture. Then looking up and around I see that all world wide democracies are mostly influenced and built upon a single culture, sometimes that base changes as is the case in South Africa, but it flipped, South Africa did not become a multi-Ethnic Democracy, it is still a single Ethnic democracy, run now based on a majority from a new culture than it was before.

    America's strength has always come from our diversity, while at the same time we have also always been ruled by a Male-White-Anglo supermajority.

    We are faced with a new upheaval, as intentionally happens based on the design of our Democracy every 25 years or so. We faced the choice between Kennedy and Nixon in the 60's, it happened again when Bill Clinton, the first baby boomer president took over, and it is clearly happening now. This time it is bigger and I think more significant as it represents not just a generational shift of new thinking, but a shift in the culture we will use to shape our way going forward.

    President Obama represented a first attempt at a sharp turn from an Angol-White culture representing the people with an angry counter insurgency pushing hard to respond with their values and principals. The struggle in the last 6 years of the Obama years was fought between Congress and the Presidency.

    For a variety of reasons, resentment from the entrenched Male-White-Anglo faction, made it possible for them to take the presidency and maintain the Congress. We saw the struggle play out in the ideologies of the candidates during the election. Interestingly a struggle broke out in the Republican party between members who are open to adopting portions of the new multi-cultural governing coalition and those almost openly hostile to anything that might represent this move. Now we face the mid-term election and the boundaries of the battle are starting to develop, it looks like the Republican party is in trouble as it appears a coalition of those who are voting for their own political identity coupled with those willing to accept a compromise allowing a greater variety of values to be in the mix are more fired up than those fighting to maintain the old way.

    If the Majority changes in Congress, if there is a coalition of those fighting for their own minority and those accepting of those minorities, the battle will shift once again from within the Republican party to a larger field represented more likely between Congress and the President. It will be very interesting to see where he stands if the President is faced with a power center that is more centrist, considering his tendency to revert to the mean after sometimes making statements more friendly to the new front. Will President Trump become more of a centrest as he is faced with a requirement that he work with liberals in order to make any deals?

    Will America make the transition to the worlds first Multi-Cultural Democracy, I say yes... we are (always have been) a nation of great people of many cultures, just now we are going to start having a Government that reflects that. It might take two more presidential cycles, the fight might go on, but as the older generation dies, the newer one will take over, as always happens, and the more modern version of America will emerge stronger than ever.


    Please share your thoughts and criticisms. I am interested in your opinion.
    I think your OP is based on a false premise. Culturally speaking and despite Obama's skin color we are still a White Male Anglo dominated democracy that has just gotten a little browner in color but hasn't changed that signficantly culturally. Our last Presidential election proved that. We as a nation were ready for a black male POTUS but not a female POTUS.

    Obama's race had no bearing what so ever on my voting for him. I had so many things in common with him. Culturally we both are from the same generation, we both come from white working class roots and ascended to professional class (obviously Barry has outstripped me there), his values and bearing are unquestionably Midwestern, as are mine and we are both Professionals. Not uncoincidentally we also share a lot of the same views and egalitarianism values. In fact it is Obama's egalitarianism that many conservatives found most offensive about him and not necessarily his skin color.

    That has been a major flaw of conservatives, particularly Southern conservatives, that they don't like that people should be equal before the law and judged on merit, not by their associations. I would argue that it was Obama's egalitarianism that conservatives found so offensive more so than his color....though obviously for about 25% of the knuckled draggers that identify as conservatives his skin color was definately an issue. They, however, don't represent the majority of conservatives. Just a very large minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Lol, that must be why conservatives control 90% of the government in this country.
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    You can steal your neighbors car

    that does not mean you bought a car huh

    its means you have something that does not belong to you


    you have it in your possession but its not yours


    the people don't want republicans running things

    so the republicans cheated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I think your OP is based on a false premise. Culturally speaking and despite Obama's skin color we are still a White Male Anglo dominated democracy that has just gotten a little browner in color but hasn't changed that signficantly culturally. Our last Presidential election proved that. We as a nation were ready for a black male POTUS but not a female POTUS.

    Obama's race had no bearing what so ever on my voting for him. I had so many things in common with him. Culturally we both are from the same generation, we both come from white working class roots and ascended to professional class (obviously Barry has outstripped me there), his values and bearing are unquestionably Midwestern, as are mine and we are both Professionals. Not uncoincidentally we also share a lot of the same views and egalitarianism values. In fact it is Obama's egalitarianism that many conservatives found most offensive about him and not necessarily his skin color.

    That has been a major flaw of conservatives, particularly Southern conservatives, that they don't like that people should be equal before the law and judged on merit, not by their associations. I would argue that it was Obama's egalitarianism that conservatives found so offensive more so than his color....though obviously for about 25% of the knuckled draggers that identify as conservatives his skin color was definately an issue. They, however, don't represent the majority of conservatives. Just a very large minority.
    This is great feedback, thanks. I agree that it’s more about Egalitarianism but I think it’s about being egalitarian with a broader set of people that upsets those dedicated to the old way. Obama did not have to be black to represent this New Culture, but had he been white I do believe it would’ve been less controversial.

    I’m going to change this to make it more reflective of that, to make that more clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    My entire adult life I have been an observer of American culture and how politics reflects it. Everytime we experience an upheaval or a major change in political structure, as we are watching now, it illustrates to me a new perspective on who we are.

    I never realized before how incredibly biased and focused we have always been on Male-White-Anglo culture. Then looking up and around I see that all world wide democracies are mostly influenced and built upon a single culture, sometimes that base changes as is the case in South Africa, but it flipped, South Africa did not become a multi-Ethnic Democracy, it is still a single Ethnic democracy, run now based on a majority from a new culture than it was before.

    America's strength has always come from our diversity, while at the same time we have also always been ruled by a Male-White-Anglo supermajority.

    We are faced with a new upheaval, as intentionally happens based on the design of our Democracy every 25 years or so. We faced the choice between Kennedy and Nixon in the 60's, it happened again when Bill Clinton, the first baby boomer president took over, and it is clearly happening now. This time it is bigger and I think more significant as it represents not just a generational shift of new thinking, but a shift in the culture we will use to shape our way going forward.

    President Obama represented a first attempt at a sharp turn from an Angol-White culture representing the people with an angry counter insurgency pushing hard to respond with their values and principals. The struggle in the last 6 years of the Obama years was fought between Congress and the Presidency.

    For a variety of reasons, resentment from the entrenched Male-White-Anglo faction, made it possible for them to take the presidency and maintain the Congress. We saw the struggle play out in the ideologies of the candidates during the election. Interestingly a struggle broke out in the Republican party between members who are open to adopting portions of the new multi-cultural governing coalition and those almost openly hostile to anything that might represent this move. Now we face the mid-term election and the boundaries of the battle are starting to develop, it looks like the Republican party is in trouble as it appears a coalition of those who are voting for their own political identity coupled with those willing to accept a compromise allowing a greater variety of values to be in the mix are more fired up than those fighting to maintain the old way.

    If the Majority changes in Congress, if there is a coalition of those fighting for their own minority and those accepting of those minorities, the battle will shift once again from within the Republican party to a larger field represented more likely between Congress and the President. It will be very interesting to see where he stands if the President is faced with a power center that is more centrist, considering his tendency to revert to the mean after sometimes making statements more friendly to the new front. Will President Trump become more of a centrest as he is faced with a requirement that he work with liberals in order to make any deals?

    Will America make the transition to the worlds first Multi-Cultural Democracy, I say yes... we are (always have been) a nation of great people of many cultures, just now we are going to start having a Government that reflects that. It might take two more presidential cycles, the fight might go on, but as the older generation dies, the newer one will take over, as always happens, and the more modern version of America will emerge stronger than ever.


    Please share your thoughts and criticisms. I am interested in your opinion.
    Anglo-white culture IE Western Civilization built this country, one does not exist without the other, and your attempts to destroy it from within through mass immigration from 3rd world shitholes like they have done in western Europe will fail.

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