Capitalism Has Destroyed / Is Destroying American Family Values

[cawacko]

Hello cawacko,

Plentiful instances exist. Do you deny that Republicans take the side of corporate leadership over worker rights? Who supports ALEC?

You were talking about unfettered capitalism. We have nothing close to that in this country. And technology and globalism have changed the nature of our workplace from the '50's and '60's. You are also talking about a time economically when Europe and Japan were in recovering from WWII, China and India were just trying to feed their own people. It was a very very different world

[CFM]

American families are clearly on the decline. Divorce rates and out-of-wedlock child birth rates are up. Capitalism has played a crucial role in this evolution.

Decades ago, it took just one income to support a family. That included a 40 hour week, full health care, vacations, savings and retirement. Unions won most of those family-enhancing struggles. This represented a bit of a loss for capitalism as many of those family-beneficial victories came at the expense of additional profits for the richest.

But capitalism relentlessly seeks to maximize the profitability of any situation. A war on unions and worker rights was the response from capitalism to all those family-enhancing detriments to profitability. Good jobs with family-supporting benefits have routinely been downsized, offshored, mechanized, computerized, and broken into several part time positions with no benefits.

The traditional male/female roles where he works, brings home the bacon, and she is the home maker have now been relegated to the rich who can afford nannies, cooks, gardeners, etc.

Family values have become luxuries only affordable to the rich. Capitalism is the culprit.

Clearly, in order to make America great again, families are going to need something more than empty words of support.

Capitalism is a wonderful and powerful wealth-generating tool, but it is also dangerous to American family values. The lesson is apparent: Capitalism must be balanced with the proper amount of socialism. Capitalism is like a powerful engine. The engine of capitalism, without socialism as a governor, and left to run at wide open throttle, is bound to blow up. Our challenge is not a choice between capitalism and socialism, it is clearly one of how to blend the two.

Our young nation is at a point where we are falling behind the other older nations which have already figured this out. It is now time for us to accept this challenge and show that we can do it better.

Decades ago, we didn't have all these bastard children running around with single mothers.

[CFM]

Hello Frank,

I am a social capitalist. I love capitalism, but recognize the downside. Capitalism is not perfect. This imperfection is what leads to extreme wealth inequality. Capitalism has no interest in an enduring American society or in promoting American family values. We need to inject some socialism into our capitalism to get that. I agree it will be messy to transcend from the now to a brighter future.

Conservatives often say the underadvantaged are to be blamed for their own condition, and they can extricate themselves from misery by simply working harder. The problem with that reasoning is that not everyone can be CEO. Life has to be good for the worker on the line as well. Many in power agree with this, but sadly many do not.

It is the difference between win/win philosophy and win/lose. Sadly, our President believes in win/lose dealing. He thinks every deal has a winner and a loser, and he aims to always be the winner. He is wrong. America doesn't need to be first all the time. Humanity does. The environment does. Ideals do. Our current leadership is making the problem worse, not better. A bump in the road over the course of American history. Considerate people will reject the President's leadership and adhere to the values which will make American families great again.

You're a socialist POS in the same mold as other ones like you.

Not everyone has to be a CEO to not be in "misery". When someone quits school while in the 9th grade having what amounts to an 8th grade education, the system isn't to blame. The quitter is. That person is the only one to blame for their own condition.

Socialism won't make family values greater. Over the past 50 years, more of it in society has torn the family apart. When a single mother uses the government as the provider and is willing to spread her legs in order to get more handouts, that's not family value. That's socialism destroying society. If socialism worked, the $22 trillion wasted on social welfare programs since mid 1960s would have made things better.

[Frank Apisa]

You were talking about unfettered capitalism. We have nothing close to that in this country. And technology and globalism have changed the nature of our workplace from the '50's and '60's. You are also talking about a time economically when Europe and Japan were in recovering from WWII, China and India were just trying to feed their own people. It was a very very different world

"Unfettered capitalism" is a continuum, ca.

We are a hell of a lot closer to it than anyone else around...so your suggestion that "we have nothing close to (it) in this country"...rings very hollow.

And if the Trump sycophants get their way...we will be even closer before we are done with this national nightmare we are enduring.

Best we avoid "getting closer" in almost any way possible.

[CFM]

"Unfettered capitalism" is a continuum, ca.

We are a hell of a lot closer to it than anyone else around...so your suggestion that "we have nothing close to (it) in this country"...rings very hollow.

And if the Trump sycophants get their way...we will be even closer before we are done with this national nightmare we are enduring.

Best we avoid "getting closer" in almost any way possible.

If you socialists get your way, the high school dropout that provides nothing meaningful to society will have as much as the well educated people that keep society going.

[evince]

Hello Frank,

I am a social capitalist. I love capitalism, but recognize the downside. Capitalism is not perfect. This imperfection is what leads to extreme wealth inequality. Capitalism has no interest in an enduring American society or in promoting American family values. We need to inject some socialism into our capitalism to get that. I agree it will be messy to transcend from the now to a brighter future.

Conservatives often say the underadvantaged are to be blamed for their own condition, and they can extricate themselves from misery by simply working harder. The problem with that reasoning is that not everyone can be CEO. Life has to be good for the worker on the line as well. Many in power agree with this, but sadly many do not.

It is the difference between win/win philosophy and win/lose. Sadly, our President believes in win/lose dealing. He thinks every deal has a winner and a loser, and he aims to always be the winner. He is wrong. America doesn't need to be first all the time. Humanity does. The environment does. Ideals do. Our current leadership is making the problem worse, not better. A bump in the road over the course of American history. Considerate people will reject the President's leadership and adhere to the values which will make American families great again.

If it is well fettered with WISE regulations


no system creates an automatic setting


Humankind has to create the world it wants to live in


FREEDOM is paramount


capitalism is just one tool in mankind bag to keep the world free.


but it is one that can never be SOLD away


and NOT properly regulated its sells its self away

to survive Capitalism MUST be regulated

[evince]

"Unfettered capitalism" is a continuum, ca.

We are a hell of a lot closer to it than anyone else around...so your suggestion that "we have nothing close to (it) in this country"...rings very hollow.

And if the Trump sycophants get their way...we will be even closer before we are done with this national nightmare we are enduring.

Best we avoid "getting closer" in almost any way possible.

there is a reason they can give no example of such


its eats its self when actually practiced

its a sham debate

its a traitors tool of an idea

[CFM]

there is a reason they can give no example of such


its eats its self when actually practiced

its a sham debate

its a traitors tool of an idea

The blacks should be grateful for all the socialism Frank wants. 1 in every 3 1/2 rely on food stamps. Otherwise, they wouldn't eat unless they stole it from somewhere.

[evince]

the republican party wants the system to fail


they have even begun working with the Russian to destroy our Democracy


they are the Enemy


the Democratic party is who is fighting to save us


NEVER FORGET THAT

[evince]

The blacks should be grateful for all the socialism Frank wants. 1 in every 3 1/2 rely on food stamps. Otherwise, they wouldn't eat unless they stole it from somewhere.

go get reprogramed

this is a new moment

[cawacko]

"Unfettered capitalism" is a continuum, ca.

We are a hell of a lot closer to it than anyone else around...so your suggestion that "we have nothing close to (it) in this country"...rings very hollow.

And if the Trump sycophants get their way...we will be even closer before we are done with this national nightmare we are enduring.

Best we avoid "getting closer" in almost any way possible.

we may have the "freest" market of any industrialized country but that doesn't mean we are close to unfettered capitalism. What we are close to is crony capitalism ruining this country.

You get too caught up in the power of the President and often miss the forest for the trees of what's going on in the country.

[evince]

your assholes never met a regulation they didn't want to repeal

[evince]

Deregulation for deregulations sake

[Frank Apisa]

we may have the "freest" market of any industrialized country but that doesn't mean we are close to unfettered capitalism. What we are close to is crony capitalism ruining this country.

You get too caught up in the power of the President and often miss the forest for the trees of what's going on in the country.

Perhaps you are right.

To help me along, though, could you name two or three other countries that are closer to unfettered capitalism?

Maybe...even one.

[evince]

the republican party has not cared about Democracy for a few decades now

they are the party of the wealthy who want more