Frank Apisa, debating Granule is a useless endeavor, G is an ideologue, a captive (employed?) of right wing agitprop and 'dark money' sites and their benefactor's ignorant interpretation and attempted control of life and America. It is difficult to tell sometimes if right wing conservatives are even real people. Have your fun but the debate is useless against people who have a bot mentality. You will soon see they have no heart, no soul, they are empty automatons calling liberals 'bad' words like some ten year old. Funny sometimes how easily they apply any issue to the other side with no sense of history or education. A few may just be so uneducated they actually believe the nonsense. Most know no history and show it. The site linked is covered below.
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/storie...ndbackers.html
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/WorldNetDaily
Readings for the non bots:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...nvisible-hands
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833494-dark-money
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...their-own-land
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/33917107-on-tyranny
"Now it is true that I believe this country is following a dangerous trend when it permits too great a degree of centralization of governmental functions. I oppose this — in some instances the fight is a rather desperate one. But to attain any success it is quite clear that the Federal government cannot avoid or escape responsibilities which the mass of the people firmly believe should be undertaken by it. The political processes of our country are such that if a rule of reason is not applied in this effort, we will lose everything — even to a possible and drastic change in the Constitution. This is what I mean by my constant insistence upon "moderation" in government. Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H.L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid." President Dwight Eisenhower
at http://www.snopes.com/POLITICS/quotes/ikesocial.asp
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” Theodore Roosevelt “The Man in the Arena”
Wanna make America great, buy American owned, made in the USA, we do. AF Veteran, INFJ-A, I am not PC.
"I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it." Voltaire
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