Is Republican Christianity starting to look a lot like Extremist Islam?

[dukkha]

[kudzu]

Holy shit. Goldberg sounds like Hitler except he replaces Jews with Liberals.

Very sick stuff............

[Joe Capitalist]

Very sick stuff............

And it's effective on Trump's Poorly Educated.

[kudzu]

And it's effective on Trump's Poorly Educated.

Sometimes the hatred expressed here is very, very shocking..

[Rune]

Maybe we should deport these lunatics too.



During the brief siege, the youngest victim, Tywanza Sanders, 26, pleaded with Mr. Roof not to kill. “You blacks are killing white people on the streets everyday and raping white women everyday,” Mr. Roof said during the rampage, according to the jailhouse manifesto written within seven weeks of his arrest.

"Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them
"This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book. I'd like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It's the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence."


After his arrest, Jeremy Joseph Christian sat in the back of a police car and said: "I stabbed the two (expletives) in the neck and I'm happy now."
The police car, equipped with audio and video recording devices, captured statements from Christian, a suspect in the stabbing deaths of two people on a Portland light rail.
"Think I stab (expletives) in the neck for fun? Oh yeah, you're right I do. I'm a patriot."
"That's what liberalism gets you," he was recorded saying.

Of course it is.
All fundamentalist are virtually the same whether Christian Muslim or Jewish.

It isn't the religion that is the problem, it is the extremist beliefs that are the problem.

[kudzu]

Of course it is.
All fundamentalist are virtually the same whether Christian Muslim or Jewish.

It isn't the religion that is the problem, it is the extremist beliefs that are the problem.

When religion makes people crazy, it has to be reconsidered.

[Rune]

When religion makes people crazy, it has to be reconsidered.

When crazy people use religion to justify insanity what should be considered?

[Joe Capitalist]

When crazy people use religion to justify insanity what should be considered?

Maybe religious people are just psychologically more gullible. I mean, think about it. You gotta be pretty gullible to believe most of the Crapo in the bible, right? Maybe these people are just easier to scam. Naive, Gullible, ignorant. Maybe a combination of all three. Read their manifestos. Listen to what they believed about liberals They didn't reach those conclusions on their own. It was indoctrinated into them. Look how many suckers Jim Baker, Robert Tilton, Jimmy Swaggert roped in. There's one born every minute so there's a lot of suckers out there.

[Rune]

Maybe religious people are just psychologically more gullible. I mean, think about it. You gotta be pretty gullible to believe most of the Crapo in the bible, right? Maybe these people are just easier to scam. Naive, Gullible, ignorant. Maybe a combination of all three. Read their manifestos. Listen to what they believed about liberals They didn't reach those conclusions on their own. It was indoctrinated into them. Look how many suckers Jim Baker, Robert Tilton, Jimmy Swaggert roped in. There's one born every minute so there's a lot of suckers out there.

Umm, yeah.
I was actually addressing the quotee.

Thanks though.

Certainly religion was the opiate of the masses which now is a substantial portion of the World population.

[Rune]

For most, the only hope of any form spirituality or spiritual health is through organized religion though not the only path, just the most available and easy to find path.

The moral lessons of the preachers and writings alone are worth the existence of organized religion despite it's faults.
To me this is inarguable though I am sure some would try.

These sick killers in this thread are no Christians and they didn't learn this thinking from other Christians,
just as the Saudis who behead their victims do not represent all Islam

[Joe Capitalist]

Of course it is.
All fundamentalist are virtually the same whether Christian Muslim or Jewish.

It isn't the religion that is the problem, it is the extremist beliefs that are the problem.

Agreed. But the disturbing thing to me is the mass-murderers quotes/maifestos. They really believed they were killing for the good of the country.
How perverted is that? And what caused them to believe that?

BTW, here's another one.

Before he was accused of ramming his car into a crowd in Charlottesville, James Alex Fields Jr., 20, had been known to his high school teacher and classmates as being "very big into Nazism" and having a "fondness for Adolf Hitler."

Fields, of Maumee, Ohio, is suspected of driving his Dodge Challenger into the crowd of counterprotesters gathered to oppose the "Unite the Right" rally of white nationalist and other right-wing groups on Saturday. Heather Heyer, 32, a paralegal from Charlottesville, was killed and 19 others were injured.
Heather Heyer died 'fighting for what she believed in'
Heather Heyer died 'fighting for what she believed in'
Fields is charged with second-degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and failure to stop in an accident that resulted in death.
Those who knew Fields at his high school said he held extreme views and a fascination with Nazism. Fields would draw swastikas in class

[kudzu]

For most, the only hope of any form spirituality or spiritual health is through organized religion though not the only path, just the most available and easy to find path.

The moral lessons of the preachers and writings alone are worth the existence of organized religion despite it's faults.
To me this is inarguable though I am sure some would try.

These sick killers in this thread are no Christians and they didn't learn this thinking from other Christians,
just as the Saudis who behead their victims do not represent all Islam

Are you opposed to the death penalty?

[Granule]

Maybe we should deport these lunatics too.



During the brief siege, the youngest victim, Tywanza Sanders, 26, pleaded with Mr. Roof not to kill. “You blacks are killing white people on the streets everyday and raping white women everyday,” Mr. Roof said during the rampage, according to the jailhouse manifesto written within seven weeks of his arrest.

"Know this if nothing else: This was a hate crime. I hate the damn left-wing liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country & these liberals are working together to attack every decent & honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them
"This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book. I'd like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It's the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence."


After his arrest, Jeremy Joseph Christian sat in the back of a police car and said: "I stabbed the two (expletives) in the neck and I'm happy now."
The police car, equipped with audio and video recording devices, captured statements from Christian, a suspect in the stabbing deaths of two people on a Portland light rail.
"Think I stab (expletives) in the neck for fun? Oh yeah, you're right I do. I'm a patriot."
"That's what liberalism gets you," he was recorded saying.

Funny. All we really need to do is get rid of the perverts, and we can get back to living our lives, in peace.

[Micawber]

Yes. THey always have resembled them in the way that both believe in being a political religion.
They are so extreme though, that on the margins we must simply forge ahead and not consider their beliefs.
Any group that has nonnegotiable beliefs and are a tiny minority of opinion on said beliefs should simply be disregarded
for the greater good, a good only maximized by moderation and negotiated solutions wherein nobody is fully happy.
It is in the nature of groups that extreme ideologies must be shoved aside if they can't get along with us.
That goes for guns, choice, welfare state, taxes.

Good article in Atlantic on how Trump suckered these ignorant immoral people.
"How evangelicals lost their way"

[kudzu]

Reading this book during the Lenten season, and completing it during Holy Week, may be contributing to my primary take on the book: Evangelicals very badly lost their way. And they did so because their gospel stopped being about the love of God in Jesus Christ, demonstrated most profoundly at the cross, and instead became a reactionary jeremiad about saving America by electing Republican politicians and fighting culture wars.

The author is not an evangelical insider and does not make that claim. But she offers all the evidence necessary for me to make it, aided by nearly 40 years as a participant in American evangelical Christianity.

https://www.religionnews.com/2017/04...ost-their-way/