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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Socialism, as you know, is control of society by those who do the work.
    Socialism, as you know from observation, is the control of society by those who do the killing.

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    Getting closer every day to a plutocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Socialism, as you know, is control of society by those who do the work.
    Those who do the work do not control any more in a socialist or capitalist society. Socialism is an economic system in which government owns the means of production and distribution (airlines, oil companies, banks, ship building, utilities). The socialist economic system can have varying types of political systems from communism to democracy.

    What nation(s) have a socialist economic system in which those who do the work control society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    They might as well exist for some purpose. What is the point of Wales, exactly?
    For the Cymry to live in. You dim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Socialism, as you know from observation, is the control of society by those who do the killing.
    Best not to talk abut what you know nothing about - it makes you look silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Those who do the work do not control any more in a socialist or capitalist society. Socialism is an economic system in which government owns the means of production and distribution (airlines, oil companies, banks, ship building, utilities). The socialist economic system can have varying types of political systems from communism to democracy.

    What nation(s) have a socialist economic system in which those who do the work control society?
    Socialism is the overthrow of capitalism by democracy. No nations have a socialist system, obviously. You got problems with English. What do you think all those armies and police of yours are for? A socialist system means we control the world and stop your masters thieving - simple enough really, if you weren't so brainwashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Best not to talk abut what you know nothing about - it makes you look silly.
    Where has socialism existed where that hasn't occurred?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Socialism is the overthrow of capitalism by democracy. No nations have a socialist system, obviously. You got problems with English. What do you think all those armies and police of yours are for? A socialist system means we control the world and stop your masters thieving - simple enough really, if you weren't so brainwashed.
    Any countries that are communist are basically socialist since that is an essential element of communism; yet, I don't see much democracy in those nations. You are confusing economic and political systems. It is not about my brainwashing but about your lack of understanding of basic economics and political science.

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    it's supposed to be a federal republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Where has socialism existed where that hasn't occurred?
    In the brief months before your thugs murdered the socialists, obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Any countries that are communist are basically socialist since that is an essential element of communism; yet, I don't see much democracy in those nations. You are confusing economic and political systems. It is not about my brainwashing but about your lack of understanding of basic economics and political science.
    Codswallop! You are talking about State capitalism, as you know. You can tell the difference: where you have a boss class, no socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    In the brief months before your thugs murdered the socialists, obviously
    Any particular examples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Where has socialism existed where that hasn't occurred?
    Your party, including some of it's leading politicians, and many of your fellow rightwing message boarders, have spent entire careers wailing about the "socialism" of western Europe....and using the term "European Socialism" as a derogatory epithet. There is no point denying it, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

    That means you cannot simply run away from that track record when I point out that socialism - more precisely, democratic socialism - has been remarkably effective in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and a host of other western European countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Your party, including some of it's leading politicians, and many of your fellow rightwing message boarders, have spent entire careers wailing about the "socialism" of western Europe....and using the term "European Socialism" as a derogatory epithet. There is no point denying it, you know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

    That means you cannot simply run away from that track record when I point out that socialism - more precisely, democratic socialism - has been remarkably effective in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, and a host of other western European countries.
    Iolo is talking about straight socialism with no government. Because all the Western European countries still have "thiefs" (people who create things and make money). Unless I'm misunderstanding him you are choosing not to follow along with his desires and definitions. And Western European countries have governments

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Iolo is talking about straight socialism with no government. Because all the Western European countries still have "thiefs" (people who create things and make money). Unless I'm misunderstanding him you are choosing not to follow along with his desires and definitions. And Western European countries have governments
    I bet if someone said you had to choose between living in conservative Alabama, or "socialist" Sweden....you would pick Sweden in a nanosecond....and I wouldn't blame you in the least, because Scandinavian women tend to be hot! Second only to Slavic women!

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