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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
    Only Michael is Archangel
    Because, doubtless, he was backed by the Republican Party. I know, actually, but am being driven out of my mind by the Archangel Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Because, doubtless, he was backed by the Republican Party. I know, actually, but am being driven out of my mind by the Archangel Trump
    Trump lies more than Lucifer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
    Trump lies more than Lucifer!
    The Supreme Court hasn't yet adjudged!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Take it slow and easy. Socialism = rule of working class majority. Where working class NOT in power, no socialism.
    You did not explain who the 18 armies are. Provide a link, please

    Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production and distribution. It does not matter if it is controlled by the working class to be socialism. Cuba has socialism but there is no democracy. You are giving somebody's variant of socialism--perhaps communist theory that claims the state will "wither away."

    Again, when was the Soviet Union a democracy (that the 18 armies destroyed)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You did not explain who the 18 armies are. Provide a link, please

    Socialism is the government ownership of the means of production and distribution. It does not matter if it is controlled by the working class to be socialism. Cuba has socialism but there is no democracy. You are giving somebody's variant of socialism--perhaps communist theory that claims the state will "wither away."

    Again, when was the Soviet Union a democracy (that the 18 armies destroyed)?
    NO country has socialism unless the working class is in power, obviously, whatever your masters tell you. The eighteen armies ranged for the Czechs to the British and Americans, not excluding the czarists, Poles and Japanese. You can't mean your masters keep something from you? Shocking heresy! The Soviet Union was a democracy for a few months until the Party took over, as you know. Heil Trump and free information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    NO country has socialism unless the working class is in power, obviously, whatever your masters tell you. The eighteen armies ranged for the Czechs to the British and Americans, not excluding the czarists, Poles and Japanese. You can't mean your masters keep something from you? Shocking heresy! The Soviet Union was a democracy for a few months until the Party took over, as you know. Heil Trump and free information!
    Information must be free and available if you have that information. Tip: not all free information is reliable. Your definition of socialism and history of the Soviet Union, for example, are not consistent with accepted knowledge. I suspect you get your information from very partisan sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Information must be free and available if you have that information. Tip: not all free information is reliable. Your definition of socialism and history of the Soviet Union, for example, are not consistent with accepted knowledge. I suspect you get your information from very partisan sources.
    Since I've spent a long lifetime as an active socialist, I tentatively suggest that you are talking out of the wrong aperture. Heil Trump and brainwashed quacking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Since I've spent a long lifetime as an active socialist, I tentatively suggest that you are talking out of the wrong aperture. Heil Trump and brainwashed quacking!
    As an an active socialist you are obviously choosing one small variant of socialism to champion (obviously unsuccessful variant).

    Are your masters the same as my masters? If not, please explain who mine are and who yours are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    As an an active socialist you are obviously choosing one small variant of socialism to champion (obviously unsuccessful variant).

    Are your masters the same as my masters? If not, please explain who mine are and who yours are.
    Only variant there is, kid. Jut as weirdoes in the US call themselves 'Christian', all soetsa of capitalists call themselves 'socialist'. Socialism is about the removal of the thieves and their replacement by decent people, and always has been. You know who your masters are - they are the ones whose bits and boots you lick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Only variant there is, kid. Jut as weirdoes in the US call themselves 'Christian', all soetsa of capitalists call themselves 'socialist'. Socialism is about the removal of the thieves and their replacement by decent people, and always has been. You know who your masters are - they are the ones whose bits and boots you lick.
    Are those the same ones you lick? If not, how are we governed by different masters.

    Somebody has been holding back information on you if you think there is only one variant of socialism (which existed for only two months according to you).

    Types of Socialism

    https://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_socialism.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism

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    Quote Originally Posted by IoloTARD View Post
    Do what? Without the thieves we shan't need a State, as you know. Governments are just the thieves' Central Committee, as you know.
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    Well. it's your State. States exist to protect the rich thieves from reprisals, obviously.
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    Well, it's your government. Enjoy it!
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    Socialism, as you know, is control of society by those who do the work.
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    Obviously.
    No one does moron better than you shit-for-brains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Are those the same ones you lick? If not, how are we governed by different masters.

    Somebody has been holding back information on you if you think there is only one variant of socialism (which existed for only two months according to you).

    Types of Socialism

    https://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_socialism.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism
    If you've got anything to say, say it, and argue it out. I don't go for the Book of Revelations or Genesis either. Think for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    If you've got anything to say, say it, and argue it out. I don't go for the Book of Revelations or Genesis either. Think for yourself.
    I can't make my point until I understand who my "masters" are and whether our "masters" are different.

    Also, I think I already made my point about socialism having different variations and your definition has nothing to do with the most widely accepted economic system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Only variant there is, kid. Jut as weirdoes in the US call themselves 'Christian', all soetsa of capitalists call themselves 'socialist'. Socialism is about the removal of the thieves and their replacement by decent people, and always has been. You know who your masters are - they are the ones whose bits and boots you lick.
    no that is Democracy combined with well fettered capitalism

    pure socialism does not imply Democracy or well fettered capitalism


    there is NO automatic setting


    mankind has to police any government structure to ensure the sociopathic don't work their way into power.


    Democracy must be a bigger part of the mix than socialism


    and Capitalism MUST be a BIG part of it


    then you can employ socialistic tools to help FETTER that capitalism properly

    things like the post office NOT being privately owned

    the founders wrote that bit of socialism right into the constitution


    the military is a socialistic tool also


    with out these three all employed together you will struggle

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