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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Well religion make it up. Then followers believe it. They pretend to know, but you are right, they do not. Religion is a complete waste of time.
    That you exist is proof that God exists and has a sense of humor. He created you as a dumbass so the rest of us could laugh at you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    That you exist is proof that God exists and has a sense of humor. He created you as a dumbass so the rest of us could laugh at you.
    Did God have a creator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Did God have a creator?
    Invalid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Did God have a creator?
    ignorant question.......doesn't need one........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Did God have a creator?
    You stumped him, Flash.

    He is far from the sharpest tool in the shed, though, so "stumping" him does not have a pleasing a feel as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You stumped him, Flash.

    He is far from the sharpest tool in the shed, though, so "stumping" him does not have a pleasing a feel as usual.
    I doubt he has ever given the matter any thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    You stumped him, Flash.

    He is far from the sharpest tool in the shed, though, so "stumping" him does not have a pleasing a feel as usual.
    actually it would appear that my response stopped the Flash.......or were you stupid enough not to notice that?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    actually it would appear that my response stopped the Flash.......or were you stupid enough not to notice that?......
    I am not stupid, PP.

    And if you think that response of yours was of value...then perhaps "stupid" is a problem you have to deal with.

    People like you seem to have no problem positing something (your god) that was not created...yet when speaking of THE UNIVERSE...suddenly everything has to have a creator.

    And please, don't start that "physical versus non-physical" nonsense...unless you can establish with certainty that what we humans call "the universe" is "physical" and that your god is "non-physical." Simply asserting it...is not "establishing" it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I am not stupid, PP.

    And if you think that response of yours was of value...then perhaps "stupid" is a problem you have to deal with.

    People like you seem to have no problem positing something (your god) that was not created...yet when speaking of THE UNIVERSE...suddenly everything has to have a creator.

    And please, don't start that "physical versus non-physical" nonsense...unless you can establish with certainty that what we humans call "the universe" is "physical" and that your god is "non-physical." Simply asserting it...is not "establishing" it.
    You're blinding them with science again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Why do I say this? For several reason, but the main one is that nothing physical can create itself. Therefore, the universe had a Creator. In order to refute this, you must first give an example of something creating itself. It's a scientific impossibility.
    What is it that you have in mind when you write about something called a "Creator"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hypGnosis View Post
    What is it that you have in mind when you write about something called a "Creator"?
    Perhaps you should be asking yourself who would be capable of creating it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Why do I say this? For several reason, but the main one is that nothing physical can create itself. Therefore, the universe had a Creator. In order to refute this, you must first give an example of something creating itself. It's a scientific impossibility.
    it doesnt have to create its self

    so you are wrong right off the bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Perhaps you should be asking yourself who would be capable of creating it.
    it doesn't need to create its self

    who said that was imperative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Perhaps you should be asking yourself who would be capable of creating it.
    Perhaps I would if I had a reason for anthropomorphizing the "something".

    Can you supply me with a reason for considering a "who"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I am not stupid, PP.
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    of course you are.....go play in the street......if you don't like what I believe you can ignore it or live with it......I really don't give a fuck if you agree with me......science believes that the universe is material and that the universe had a beginning........if you don't like that tell science why its wrong.....

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