Imagine if that first Amendment was suddenly ratified. We'd have a zillion Congresscritters.
If you don't know the history...
The Federalists were arguing that the Bill of Rights was unnecessary, they believed that centralized government was a good thing while the Anti-Federalists believed that the centralized government should be limited. The argument was winning and Madison began changing articles in the Constitution to list the limitations, however Federalists argued that Congress had no power to change the constitution, therefore the Amendments came into being. 17 Amendments were proposed and voted on by the House, the Senate approved only 12 of them. The 10 that were about individual rights were quickly ratified, the last State to ratify those 10 was Virginia in 1791.
Anyway, the 2 other Amendments that passed both houses dealt with pay raises for the Congress, and with how the numbers would be apportioned. One is still out there unratified, but it is obsolete, the one ratified in 1992 dealt with Congressional pay raises making it so the Congress could vote for a raise but the raise wouldn't apply until the next Congress was seated.
The one about the how the House was apportioned is obsolete because it would be impossible with the current population, etc.
Anyway, the one that wasn't ratified:
Article I. After the first enumeration required by the first article of the constitution, there shall be one representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred representatives, nor less than one representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred representative [sic] [the usual “nor less than one representative” is omitted either by mistake or for brevity’s sake] for every fifty thousand persons.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Imagine if that first Amendment was suddenly ratified. We'd have a zillion Congresscritters.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
the idea was that the "law of the land' would not be subjected/ subjugated to "admiralty law" [ law of global commerce]. the free and living people set their roots down and proclaimed I shall not be moved. like a planting. a crop. is it or is it not ? speak. sorry. I am learning things I never knew.
Last edited by iewitness; 02-22-2018 at 10:30 PM.
Even so, Come, Lord JesusI do not participate in delusion count me out
This is the problem....no? Some people cannot seem to comprehend the fact that United States of America was constructed and guaranteed to be governed as a REPUBLIC...not a pure democracy or socialist state. Democracies have never worked in World History, thus as explained in Article 4, Section 4, Clause 1 of the Constitution and made unambiguous by Federalist No. 10. It must confuse the hell out the socialists (commie lights) as to why they cannot seem to change this nation into a Social Justice State. There are unbreakable restrictions in the negative document/Constitution (drafted and ratified to place scope and limits on the power of a federal government)......that simply will not allow these changes under the RULE OF LAW.
Thus: if you damn Alinsky radicals want to violently revolt as has every socialist state that has ever existed on planet earth has....go for it. But our founders...unlike SOME....realized that Government was a "necessary evil" and that evil should be maintained as small as possible.
Last edited by Ralph; 02-22-2018 at 10:36 PM.
hell yea. limit that beast. the beast is now global and who can make war against the beast ? this- http://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/7.htm read it and understand it.
Even so, Come, Lord JesusI do not participate in delusion count me out
You cannot separate the single parts of the constitution out from the entire document. Not even the 3rd Amendment.
One shouldn't have that sort of allegiance to parties, anyway, so liking or disliking a particular politician is of no further consequence. The men who wrote the constitution feared political parties (except perhaps Hamilton, who could be stupidly fearless).
Your last bit about legislation is far too stupid to warrant a response.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
I appreciate all the responses so far.
I am more convinced than ever that there is a significant minority of people out there who simply do not want to be governed at all.
I also am more convinced than ever of the necessity for governance...and probably plenty of it for reasons I'll mention in a second.
The former faction may eventually become the majority...and will probably then change their tunes. OR...we will have anarchy and chaos...which is not a good thing for a nation with the kinds of offensive weapons we possess.
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