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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Fair enough, you do think money grows on trees.
    Pardon me, but I don't see where Bourbon said what you claim, anywhere.

    I believe his point was "If you make PROMISES to your workers, YOU KEEP THEM!"

    Maybe you don't mind being lied to, but I don't like it.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Thanks for that insight Zap.
    No problem.

    Your OP needed clarification.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Pardon me, but I don't see where Bourbon said what you claim, anywhere.

    I believe his point was "If you make PROMISES to your workers, YOU KEEP THEM!"

    Maybe you don't mind being lied to, but I don't like it.
    Once again thanks for not commenting on the OP. Bourbon and I were referencing a discussion from a different thread of which you weren't apart. Hence you don't understand what is being discussed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    No problem.

    Your OP needed clarification.
    Actually no it didn't because you are mistaken. The program that FDR created that was called an earned benefit no longer exists. Today it is an income transfer program and thus an entitlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Once again thanks for not commenting on the OP. Bourbon and I were referencing a discussion from a different thread of which you weren't apart. Hence you don't understand what is being discussed.
    Bourbon's comments pertain just as much to the Federal Government's attempts to reform SS and Medicare, as they do to the discussion you were having elsewhere.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Bourbon's comments pertain just as much to the Federal Government's attempts to reform SS and Medicare, as they do to the discussion you were having elsewhere.
    No it doesn't. Congress can reduce benefits for S.S. and Medicare. That's legal. Different rules for state pensions. This article isn't about state pensions. Like I said you're jumping in on another discussion. Any actual thoughts on the article in the OP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    No it doesn't. Congress can reduce benefits for S.S. and Medicare. That's legal. Different rules for state pensions. This article isn't about state pensions. Like I said you're jumping in on another discussion. Any actual thoughts on the article in the OP?
    Nice to see you admit the GOP never intended to keep their promises to our seniors.

    The Federal Government made promises to each and every one of us...and now you're going to look the other way while they break their word.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Nice to see you admit the GOP never intended to keep their promises to our seniors.

    The Federal Government made promises to each and every one of us...and now you're going to look the other way while they break their word.
    SMH. I see you are another person who not only didn't read the article but doesn't even have a modicum of understanding of entitlement costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    For starters the author knocked Trump and Congress for its current spending. Secondly you are trying to make this partisan which is where all these things inevitably go and becomes the usual two party bitch/blame fest. That's why nothing gets done. If you want to go that root I'll be happy to show what democrats have done to bring entitlements to where they are today. But the purpose of the article and the purpose of posting isn't to get into a blame game fight.

    We are where we are today, he gives the numbers, now what do we do to address it going forward. Something of this size has to be addressed on a bi-partisan basis.
    So what do you have archives? Got anything to address the entitlement issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burping View Post
    It's not Broke, we know exactly where the Money is, because we put it there.
    So you're not broke when you borrow too much because you know where you spent it? That's borderline retarded dude. Have another drink dumbfuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archcriesalot View Post
    No secret, entitlements have been growing for decades, and neither side has the political courage to address them rationally. There are small changes that would help, as raising the minimium retirement age or adding a means test, but as I said, no one has the courage
    Entitlements are unconstitutional and a vote buying mechanism for the Party of the Jackass. Turning people into willful dependent wards of the State is not compassion, it is slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burping View Post
    If we give the Wealthly All the Tax Breaks and The Benefits, then we can't sit back and complain about being broke.
    You do realize that the wealthy pay the lions share of all that entitlement spending you liberals love so much right? Damn you are one dumb MoFo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burping View Post
    We are NOT on a Fiscal Path because there's not a Democrat in The White House to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Who said anything about Democrats or Republicans? They are both to blame for this.
    How are Republicans to blame? The first time in more than thirty years republicans controlled congress, they balanced the budget. Democrats haven't come close for four decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IQ of 64 View Post
    I read it that's why I commented like I did.

    My post stands.

    Quit giving lazy niggas and wetback Mexicans welfare and food stamps. Stop giving out medicaid, medicare, SS and unemployment
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