the 13 Russian nationals and 3 firms were/are based in St. Petersburg, RU

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Just asking... so does Mueller expect Russian officials to extradite these guys to the U.S. ? Or are these guys still in the U.S. ? WTF?

If these 13 are still in Russia then this indictment is purely cosmetic and meaningless, or am I wrong here?

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Just asking... so does Mueller expect Russian officials to extradite these guys to the U.S. ? Or are these guys still in the U.S. ? WTF?

If these 13 are still in Russia then this indictment is purely cosmetic and meaningless, or am I wrong here?

Russia does not generally extradite its citizens to the United States. But prosecutors use such indictments to name and shame operatives, making it harder for them to work undetected in the future. If they travel abroad, they risk capture and extradition.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/u...erference.html

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Just asking... so does Mueller expect Russian officials to extradite these guys to the U.S. ? Or are these guys still in the U.S. ? WTF?

If these 13 are still in Russia then this indictment is purely cosmetic and meaningless, or am I wrong here?

Yes, what Mueller did Friday was debunk the President's repeated claim that the whole idea of Russia being involved in our election was a hoax perpetuated by Democrats cause they were angry they lost the election. No longer can Trump avoid recognizing Russia was the culprit

Also, it pulls the rug out from beneath those that were labeling Mueller's investigation as a witch hunt, Mueller proved Russia was involved, and there existed a real threat

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Yes, what Mueller did Friday was debunk the President's repeated claim that the whole idea of Russia being involved in our election was a hoax perpetuated by Democrats cause they were angry they lost the election. No longer can Trump avoid recognizing Russia was the culprit

Also, it pulls the rug out from beneath those that were labeling Mueller's investigation as a witch hunt, Mueller proved Russia was involved, and there existed a real threat

So these 13 allegedly broke american law but they weren't in america while breaking our laws. I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around this.
I'm not disputing what they did but I just don't see how they are breaking america laws while in russia.

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Russia does not generally extradite its citizens to the United States. But prosecutors use such indictments to name and shame operatives, making it harder for them to work undetected in the future.https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/u...erference.html

So basically these indictments are cosmetic.

If they travel abroad, they risk capture and extradition.

Yeah. If I drive to the grocery store 5 minutes away from my house I risk dying in a car accident.

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Yes, what Mueller did Friday was debunk the President's repeated claim that the whole idea of Russia being involved in our election was a hoax perpetuated by Democrats cause they were angry they lost the election. No longer can Trump avoid recognizing Russia was the culprit

Also, it pulls the rug out from beneath those that were labeling Mueller's investigation as a witch hunt, Mueller proved Russia was involved, and there existed a real threat

That wasn't his mandate. He has yet to show anything on the mandate.

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That wasn't his mandate. He has yet to show anything on the mandate.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...el-Russia.html

See section b, article iii, which refers to this:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.4

This is fully within the scope of his mandate.

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Nope. Try again.

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Just asking... so does Mueller expect Russian officials to extradite these guys to the U.S. ? Or are these guys still in the U.S. ? WTF?

If these 13 are still in Russia then this indictment is purely cosmetic and meaningless, or am I wrong here?

No you are not wrong, it is purely for show.

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[Kobie]

Nope. Try again.

Wow, killer rebuttal man. I have been destroyed. I have died of dysentery.

I post two links backing up my assertion, and your retort is "nope"? You're fucking pathetic.

[Kobie]

No you are not wrong, it is purely for show.

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It's laying groundwork. Does anyone here think Mueller is just flashing his tits here? Of course not; this guy is a career LEO. He's letting this out now to establish a basis for later moves.

[dukkha]

or he could be done with da Russians collusion..or the dude could just be getting started.
Special prosecutors mandates are unlimited in practice; they run off a general warrant

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So these 13 allegedly broke american law but they weren't in america while breaking our laws. I'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around this.
I'm not disputing what they did but I just don't see how they are breaking america laws while in russia.

They’re laughing their asses off lol.

You’re OP is right: the indictments were cosmetic. About the only thing that can be said for them is they make it official: the Russians meddled in the election—-and that their meddling was non-partisan. If the Russians *didn’t* meddle in the election it would be remarkable because they always do.

Why we needed an SP and a fleet of lawyers to find this out is beyond me. I thought this is why we had intelligence agencies. They are better at counterintelligence operations and much, much, cheaper.

The laugh is on us.

[dukkha]

much of the information Mueller published on Friday about the agency’s efforts to influence the election had already been published last October — in an article by a Russian business magazine, RBC.
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-Mueller-Probe

[dukkha]

They’re laughing their asses off lol.

You’re OP is right: the indictments were cosmetic. About the only thing that can be said for them is they make it official: the Russians meddled in the election—-and that their meddling was non-partisan. If the Russians *didn’t* meddle in the election it would be remarkable because they always do.

Why we needed an SP and a fleet of lawyers to find this out is beyond me. I thought this is why we had intelligence agencies. They are better at counterintelligence operations and much, much, cheaper.

The laugh is on us.

there is an amazing amount of "it's not over" for Russian collusion stil being hyped by the press
"It's still possible" is the mantra