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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    How sad that you are victimizing that poor mother all over again. Your Russian masters would be proud.


    SHE IS SCREAMING AT YOU ASSHOLE

    YOU ARE TRYING TO SHUT HER UP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Yes, we should not use the power of government to take someone else property to satisfy your conscience because you will not voluntarily help them yourself.

    I am all for private charity to help those in need. I think it is incumbent upon every person and their Christian duty to help those in need.

    I just don't think it should be the federal gobblement. Can you get that difference or are you Deshtard stupid on this issue?

    Stick to global warming, it is about the only thing you are coherent on. The rest you just sound like Deshtard
    Yeh that's bullshit. Anyway, it will almost certainly be the case in a decade or so that so many jobs will have disappeared, the rise of AI will see to that. Then everybody will have to be paid a universal basic income, otherwise the economy will collapse due to a lack of consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    SHE IS SCREAMING AT YOU ASSHOLE

    YOU ARE TRYING TO SHUT HER UP
    Where have I tried to shut her up?

    She is just another Cindy Sheehan that you are taking advantage of. I feel sorry for her.

    I remain unmoved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Yeh that's bullshit. Anyway, it will almost certainly be the case in a decade or so that so many jobs will have disappeared, the rise of AI will see to that. Then everybody will have to be paid a universal basic income, otherwise the economy will collapse due to a lack of consumers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timshel View Post
    A whataboutism fallacy. That is not helpful. This has nothing to do with abortion.
    It has to do with the contradictory claim of people that those who hate guns care about life while supporting something that has taken over 50 million lives since it was made legal in 1973.

    If could apply higher level thinking that would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Wonderful how the forced-birthers love to keep unwanted babies alive, presumably so that they can have people in poverty, sell them drugs and make profits out of keeping them in prison. Lovely people!
    Someone can't claim a baby they produced as unwanted if the very act they took part in was one they knew could produce the result they didn't intend to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
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    It shows the hypocritical claims by those who motivation is hating guns not protecting lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    As soon as they are born, you start squealing that they shouldn't be given food stamps or welfare.

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    They shouldn't. It's the job of the one that chose to have them to support them. While I oppose abortion, as an individual I can't legally stop a woman from having one. That means if SHE chooses not to have one but have the child, it's still HER choice. That SHE chose to have a child doesn't mean the responsibility for it falls on those that are pleased with HER decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Yes, we should not use the power of government to take someone else property to satisfy your conscience because you will not voluntarily help them yourself.

    I am all for private charity to help those in need. I think it is incumbent upon every person and their Christian duty to help those in need.

    I just don't think it should be the federal gobblement. Can you get that difference or are you Deshtard stupid on this issue?

    Stick to global warming, it is about the only thing you are coherent on. The rest you just sound like Deshtard
    Whether the woman has an abortion or keeps the child, it's still a choice SHE made. HM seems to think that a woman making a choice I agree with by having the child means those not making the choice are financially responsible for it when the one making it can't do it.

    That mindset is like someone buying a particular brand of vehicle I happen to like then expecting me to make the payments because I agree with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Yeh that's bullshit. Anyway, it will almost certainly be the case in a decade or so that so many jobs will have disappeared, the rise of AI will see to that. Then everybody will have to be paid a universal basic income, otherwise the economy will collapse due to a lack of consumers.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/04/elon...your-wage.html

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    Nonsense from someone raised in a society where he believes he's own something for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Whether the woman has an abortion or keeps the child, it's still a choice SHE made. HM seems to think that a woman making a choice I agree with by having the child means those not making the choice are financially responsible for it when the one making it can't do it.

    That mindset is like someone buying a particular brand of vehicle I happen to like then expecting me to make the payments because I agree with it.
    you cant control wombs

    us chicks cant control your your sacks


    DEAL

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you cant control wombs

    us chicks cant control your your sacks


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    What part of my statement involved controlling anything. Be specific.

    If the woman while making HER choices chooses to have the child, let her pay for the support of that child.

    Deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Wonderful how the forced-birthers love to keep unwanted babies alive, presumably so that they can have people in poverty, sell them drugs and make profits out of keeping them in prison. Lovely people!
    Ask how many of these morons support the death penalty for a good chuckle. They don't understand what pro life really means. I'm pro life, but this argument has become so jaded that I don't side with either really. Leave rape, and incest victims out of what they want, and they might get somewhere. It's just become so jaded, and shows why it shouldn't have been in politics to begin with. That's literally the deciding factor for my mother voting. I think shes starting to see the light though with all the gun stuff, the tax plans, and the wretched attacks on Escalante, and Bears. She didn't like Trump, but couldn't vote for Hillary on the push button issue of abortion alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Great article, should be a sticky!!


    We as a nation, numb to the sting of death, have lost sight of the wonders of life.


    Devastating news swept the nation Wednesday morning as a teenage gunman killed 17 high school students in Parkland, Florida. Reactions ranged from thoughtful prayers to emotional pleas for action.

    The tragedy was rapidly sanitized, and the bloodstains of 17 children were promptly forgotten. Like Sandy Hook and Columbine before it, the events of Parkland were radically politicized. Gun control, as always, is once again at the center of the debate. Those on the left push for stricter gun laws, citing their newly updated statistics about gun-related deaths. The right insists that guns have nothing to do with the tragedy and makes sure to mention that more armed security guards would have prevented this tragedy. It all feels routine. It shouldn’t.

    Death, it seems, has become an afterthought—a mere cog in political platforms, mentioned only when it conveniently supports one’s stance on a particular issue. Death is okay—it doesn’t matter so long as we do not know the victims personally. It does, however, prove beneficial to use for political purposes.

    Take for instance the death of Edwin Jackson, a former linebacker for the Indianapolis Colts who passed away in early February when a drunk driver struck him and his Uber driver. The drunk driver was an illegal immigrant, twice deported, a fact which makes Jackson’s death matter to Republicans. Had the driver been a U.S. citizen, it is unlikely that Jackson’s death would have made as many headlines as it did.

    This demonstrates a single truth: we don’t mourn death anymore. We exploit it. Death is viewed as a means of achieving our preferred policy solutions. Loss of life is irrelevant. Rather, we de-emotionalize death in such a way that life is removed from the equation entirely. We use statistics on death to casually support our arguments without grasping the lives that compiled that very number.

    We as a nation, numb to the sting of death, have lost sight of the wonders of life.

    Exploiting the deaths of children for political means, whether aborted or gunned down, has etched the idea that lives are of no worth in the American conscience. They only matter in death. Politicians clamor for pro-life policies yet fail to enact policies that protect children in schools. The very individuals who call for policies to improve the lives of immigrants and refugees are complicit with regard to abortion. I aim not to take a position, but to point out the hypocrisy of American politics with regards to life. The situation only gets bleaker with every tragedy. How, or better yet, why has this happened?

    We have grown numb to death because it has proved a useful asset in argumentation. Citing death statistics and certain tragedies often undermines your opponent’s point, thus elevating your own position. Meanwhile, life possesses no such power. Instead, we disregard the elderly, the poor, the marginalized – and any concerns for their wellbeing until they die. Upon death their lives become political capital to be maneuvered in whatever way we please. In life, we ignore them because they present problems that we do not wish to address. Seeking to improve the quality of their lives is too troublesome. *We view death as a route to a solution, and life as a hindrance.

    Intentional steps towards valuing human life in all policies are necessary to provide restoration to a nation constantly in the wake of tragedy. Change will only come if we aim not to use death to promote some solution, but actively seek to prevent it by valuing individuals while they are alive. Of course, it is impossible to prevent every loss of life. However, a greater appreciation for the traits that make us human and a collective push to mutually respect the lives of our fellow citizens is the only means to stop the cycle of politicizing the tragedies haunting our country. We desperately need to be reawakened to the beauty that is life.

    http://merionwest.com/2018/02/16/we-...-life-anymore/

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    "We"? Yeah um.....no.
    Every life matters

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    What part of my statement involved controlling anything. Be specific.

    If the woman while making HER choices chooses to have the child, let her pay for the support of that child.

    Deal?
    the part that its inside some ones body idiot


    how about all fertile males get little clamps put inside their nut sacks to crimp off the flow of sperm


    when they want to have children they get the clamp removed

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