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    Quote Originally Posted by callinectes View Post
    Makes me ill, but quality control has something to do with it, too. I have a 2016 SG with a neck as straight as an arrow, but I just took my 2015 Firebird(bought new 3 months ago and under warranty)back to Sam Ash because the neck is more warped and twisted than hillary clinton(sorry, you started it, katzgut). It's a neck-thru-body, so the only thing for it really is to replace the entire guitar. I have 30 and 40 year old Fenders that have never even had the neck ADJUSTED, and they play perfectly. I don't know if this problem with quality control is recent, or if it goes way back, but I've heard a lot of grumbling about it lately. I've wanted a Gibson since the seventies, and now that I can afford them, this crap happens.
    I have a Yamaha SL500 and a SG2000, both circa late 70s. They are truly amazing guitars, Carlos Santana used to play an SG2000 early in his career before switching to Paul Reed Smith.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I have a Yamaha SL500 and a SG2000, both circa late 70s. They are truly amazing guitars, Carlos Santana used to play an SG2000 early in his career before switching to Paul Reed Smith.



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    I've never played a Yammy- but I'm told that they're comfortable and reliable.
    I bought my first Gibson semi a couple of years ago- 2015 Memphis ES 335. I can't fault it but for a slight roughness way up around the 18th fret. Probably the top fret-polisher's day off- but these tiny details matter. Great guitar though and I'm still enjoying the scent of the case. Since then I've bought a Fender Select Port Orford Strat. which is flawless and immediately became my favorite guitar. I'm buying an Elite today, as it happens- just to see if it compares with the Select. Some folks do charlie- I collect guitars. I've probably got more guitars than any other female Arab Canuck terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    I've never played a Yammy- but I'm told that they're comfortable and reliable.
    I bought my first Gibson semi a couple of years ago- 2015 Memphis ES 335. I can't fault it but for a slight roughness way up around the 18th fret. Probably the top fret-polisher's day off- but these tiny details matter. Great guitar though and I'm still enjoying the scent of the case. Since then I've bought a Fender Select Port Orford Strat. which is flawless and immediately became my favorite guitar. I'm buying an Elite today, as it happens- just to see if it compares with the Select. Some folks do charlie- I collect guitars. I've probably got more guitars than any other female Arab Canuck terrorist.
    Nice guitars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by moon2012 View Post
    You should have bought a real one.

    JK.

    Clapton may well be right in his comment at the end of the OP article. Maybe the physical guitar has had its day. Home studio musicians, DJs, mashers etc. now have access to ANY sound they want through software which covers the entire range of what a guitar can do. It's the same with any other instrument, of course.
    Yes they cut them out with computers doing the work and for better or worse, they are great. Never liked a Les Paul Gibson beause of the weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Yes they cut them out with computers doing the work and for better or worse, they are great. Never liked a Les Paul Gibson beause of the weight
    Les Pauls are for real guitarists.

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    Rock is basically dead, as a popular art form. Still a lot of great music to be found out there, but you won't see it at the Grammy's or hear it on radio.

    Kids just aren't picking up the guitar like they were a few decades ago. More kids are picking up samplers and synth devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The answer is right in the article, fewer people playing guitar

    "obvious problem is that the guitar is just another toy for younger people today. Up until relatively recently, it was a must-have for a giant percentage of young Americans — all of whom were in love with rock & roll in some form or another. Now, the six-string is just as easily replaced by a turntable, videogame console, or simply a laptop."
    it will go on

    theyb will go bankrupt and some wealthy musicians will buy and and restore it

    Jack White would be good


    He may need others to join him though

    I'm not sure how much money he has

    but I understand he was good with the money he made


    It will become a CRAFT again with someone like him at the helm




    NOTHING replaces the hum in your innards when you caress an instrument crafted so well its part of you in your arms.



    music changes

    it wont be the same style forever


    I remember waiting for disco to bottom up

    it felt like forever


    again when you sit in a room alone and plinck and stum the strings of your favorite (maybe even only) guitar and the music from inside you goes back inside you through that beautiful polished hallow humming body there is nothing like it.



    there will always people who love guitars


    and banjoes

    and mandolins



    step up Jack White


    or any of you musicians who are in as much love with these instruments as I am

    Too bad I sucked at it

    but I do love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Rock is basically dead, as a popular art form. Still a lot of great music to be found out there, but you won't see it at the Grammy's or hear it on radio.

    Kids just aren't picking up the guitar like they were a few decades ago. More kids are picking up samplers and synth devices.
    Don't believe that for one moment, it is in an hiatus at the moment but its time will come again. Look at the Blues musicians in the late 50s and early 60s. They had to come over to England to get work as the US turned its back on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Rock is basically dead, as a popular art form. Still a lot of great music to be found out there, but you won't see it at the Grammy's or hear it on radio.

    Kids just aren't picking up the guitar like they were a few decades ago. More kids are picking up samplers and synth devices.

    It feels that way- if you follow the mainstream music outlets- but I've just attended a three-day Blues/Rock festival which was a sell-out and packed with some of the best bands I've ever heard. The genres haven't failed to develop and there are performers around with the advantage of being able to use the likes of Hendrix, Beck, Clapton, Cale, Cooder, ZZ, Cocker, etc.etc as a platform .
    I've seen teenage Korean girls sounding like both the Almans on one guitar just as company demo players. The Internet is rich in guitar tutorials and demos of every style - and that has had a massive effect on the quality of modern players.
    As ever though- the mainstream pumps out whatever the agents pay to have played- but some of the indie Internet stations are brilliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post


    NOTHING replaces the hum in your innards when you caress an instrument crafted so well its part of you in your arms.

    !! Where the fuck have YOU been !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Don't believe that for one moment, it is in an hiatus at the moment but its time will come again. Look at the Blues musicians in the late 50s and early 60s. They had to come over to England to get work as the US turned its back on them.

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