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    Okay, listen up NRA flunkies and republican/conservative wonks. To prevent shootings like what recently happened in Florida, you do the following:

    1. Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Had this been in place, Cruz would NOT have had an AR-15 in his possession.

    2. Treat ALL weapons like an automobile. This means that they have to be licensed and registered, and the owner has to pass a written and physical competency test. This will severely cut down on the trafficking of illegal gun sales and greatly assist in the tracking of guns used in a crime.

    Got that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Okay, listen up NRA flunkies and republican/conservative wonks. To prevent shootings like what recently happened in Florida, you do the following:

    1. Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Had this been in place, Cruz would NOT have had an AR-15 in his possession.

    2. Treat ALL weapons like an automobile. This means that they have to be licensed and registered, and the owner has to pass a written and physical competency test. This will severely cut down on the trafficking of illegal gun sales and greatly assist in the tracking of guns used in a crime.

    Got that?
    You got to be kidding!That infringes on gun nuts second amendment rights!
    The founding fathers wanted all Americans to have an assault rifle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shallon Peterson View Post
    You got to be kidding!That infringes on gun nuts second amendment rights!
    The founding fathers wanted all Americans to have an assault rifle!
    Classic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Okay, listen up NRA flunkies and republican/conservative wonks. To prevent shootings like what recently happened in Florida, you do the following:

    1. Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Had this been in place, Cruz would NOT have had an AR-15 in his possession.

    2. Treat ALL weapons like an automobile. This means that they have to be licensed and registered, and the owner has to pass a written and physical competency test. This will severely cut down on the trafficking of illegal gun sales and greatly assist in the tracking of guns used in a crime.

    Got that?

    first thing you have to do to implement those is to confiscate or retrieve all of those currently in existence. please try that.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    first thing you have to do to implement those is to confiscate or retrieve all of those currently in existence. please try that.
    No, you don't. Because the Assault Weapons Ban did NOT affect those who legally purchased said weapons prior to the law going into effect. Cruz had purchased his weapon AFTER the law expired and the Party of NO did NOT renew it under the Shrub or Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    No, you don't. Because the Assault Weapons Ban did NOT affect those who legally purchased said weapons prior to the law going into effect. Cruz had purchased his weapon AFTER the law expired and the Party of NO did NOT renew it under the Shrub or Obama.
    the first AW ban was ineffectual because simple cosmetic changes to the weapons made them perfectly legal. so with that in mind, propose what your AW ban would look like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the first AW ban was ineffectual because simple cosmetic changes to the weapons made them perfectly legal. so with that in mind, propose what your AW ban would look like.
    So do nothing.typical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    the first AW ban was ineffectual because simple cosmetic changes to the weapons made them perfectly legal. so with that in mind, propose what your AW ban would look like.
    So let me get this straight.....you're against a ban on assault weapons as they are manufactured like the AR-15 because a bunch of yahoos can convert other weapons to a similar status?

    Well then guess what? Merely ban those conversion "kits" gunners were putting out on e-bay and such...as their intent is to construct an ILLEGAL (if the law was in effect) weapon. Now don't waste my time with some BS about innocent kits, because I do recall the sales of specific tools were being put out....and if it's so damned easy to do, then the average gunner wouldn't need to buy a kit off the 'net. Same goes for the bump stocks.

    But I digress...do you agree that if the law was in place, then Cruz would NOT had this weapon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
    So do nothing.typical.
    did i say do nothing? i simply asked for the AW ban proposal that would be effective. can you do that? or are you just whining and wringing your hands?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    So let me get this straight.....you're against a ban on assault weapons as they are manufactured like the AR-15 because a bunch of yahoos can convert other weapons to a similar status?

    Well then guess what? Merely ban those conversion "kits" gunners were putting out on e-bay and such...as their intent is to construct an ILLEGAL (if the law was in effect) weapon. Now don't waste my time with some BS about innocent kits, because I do recall the sales of specific tools were being put out....and if it's so damned easy to do, then the average gunner wouldn't need to buy a kit off the 'net. Same goes for the bump stocks.
    first off, you need to get your facts straight. these weren't 'kits' by individuals, these were changes made on the manufacturing level by the gun makers. secondly, all you're doing now is whining about workarounds that you didn't see, so i'll ask again, propose your AW ban that will be effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    But I digress...do you agree that if the law was in place, then Cruz would NOT had this weapon?
    no, i do not agree, because there are millions of AR15s of all sorts out in circulation as we speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
    So do nothing.typical.
    Government doesn't always need to "do something".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peridot View Post
    Government doesn't always need to "do something".
    So you have no problem with mass murders of children to continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mason View Post
    So you have no problem with mass murders of children to continue.
    Fewer die every year, so the current system is just fine. In fact there is a inverse correlation between the popularity of sporting rifles and violent crime in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    first off, you need to get your facts straight. these weren't 'kits' by individuals, these were changes made on the manufacturing level by the gun makers. secondly, all you're doing now is whining about workarounds that you didn't see, so i'll ask again, propose your AW ban that will be effective.

    Taichiliberal responds: First off, you crow about an slight error....yes, there were kits made by manufacturers.. there were also ones made by individuals via internet instruct vids, etc. It's not whining when you point out how people try to skirt the law on any level....just remember how this gov't cracked down on manufacturers and promoters who were selling various types of drugs and stimulants that gave the same or near effect of illegal drugs. I already gave you the answer....you just don't like it and will throw out any and all permutations of a question I already answered. The result will be the same.
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    But I digress...do you agree that if the law was in place, then Cruz would NOT had this weapon?
    no, i do not agree, because there are millions of AR15s of all sorts out in circulation as we speak.
    Yes, but none of them were owned by Cruz prior to his personal purchase. He didn't borrow or steal his AR-15, nor was it given to him as a gift. HE LEGALLY PURCHASED IT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. So my first point on the OP stands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Yes, but none of them were owned by Cruz prior to his personal purchase. He didn't borrow or steal his AR-15, nor was it given to him as a gift. HE LEGALLY PURCHASED IT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. So my first point on the OP stands.
    there are two types of sales. one from an FFL through which those weapons are bought from manufacturers, and two, from an individual in private sales. so your point doesn't stand. both sales are legal.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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