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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    You expect, so you don't know.

    Thanks for playing.
    Well considering that the vote was 216 to 214, I'd say that was a pretty safe bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Well considering that the vote was 216 to 214, I'd say that was a pretty safe bet.

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    And yet, you don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    And yet, you don't know.
    How can anybody know? It was never put to a vote without the sunset clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    How can anybody know? It was never put to a vote without the sunset clause.

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    Then why are you and others complaining about it running out, via a time limit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    That's OK. I have more ammunition that your simple mind can count.
    We have the intellect to imagine the finality of our own demise but do not have the sophistication to overcome our survival instinct and accept it.
    Solution? Magical thinking and childish promises of everlasting life.
    Ergo, religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Then why are you and others complaining about it running out, via a time limit?
    There was every expectation that it would be renewed, even Bush said that he would sign it. However they couldn't muster the votes due to purely partisan politics and naked self-interest.

    National police organizations such as the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the International Brotherhood of Police Officers and the Fraternal Order of Police all support the renewal of the ban. President Bush has said he would sign such a bill if Congress passed it.

    Idaho State Police spokesman Rick Ohnsman said troopers have had no significant problems with assault style weapons and his agency has not taken a position for or against the federal legislation.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5946127/ns/politics



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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    There was every expectation that it would be renewed, even Bush said that he would sign it. However they couldn't muster the votes due to purely partisan politics and naked self-interest.



    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5946127/ns/politics



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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Or maybe, just MAYBE, the ban didn't result in a reduction in crime and the realization that it didn't have the support of the voters.
    Funnily enough there was a study of mass killings for the fifty years prior to 2016. The facts are at variance with your opinion, no doubt gleaned from the NRA.

    For his 2016 book “Rampage Nation,” Klarevas collected data on every gun massacre — which he defines as six or more people shot and killed — for the 50 years before 2016. His aim was to see whether there was any change in the number of gun massacres while the 10-year federal ban on assault weapons was in place.

    He calls the results “staggering.” Compared with the 10-year period before the ban, the number of gun massacres during the ban period fell by 37 percent, and the number of people dying from gun massacres fell by 43 percent. But after the ban lapsed in 2004, the numbers shot up again — an astonishing 183 percent increase in massacres and a 239 percent increase in massacre deaths.

    Klarevas says that the key provision of the assault weapons bill was a ban on high-capacity magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds. “We have found that when large capacity mags are regulated, you get drastic drops in both the incidence of gun massacres and the fatality rate of gun massacres.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-experts-say/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Funnily enough there was a study of mass killings for the fifty years prior to 2016. The facts are at variance with your opinion, no doubt gleaned from the NRA.



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-experts-say/

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    The ban didn't result in a reduction in crime and the realization it didn't have the support of the voters.
    It resulted in a huge decrease in mass murders, as you studiously chose to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    It resulted in a huge decrease in mass murders, as you studiously chose to ignore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Prove it
    Just did, see post 99.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Just did, see post 99.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Okay, listen up NRA flunkies and republican/conservative wonks. To prevent shootings like what recently happened in Florida, you do the following:

    1. Reinstate the Assault Weapons Ban. Had this been in place, Cruz would NOT have had an AR-15 in his possession.

    2. Treat ALL weapons like an automobile. This means that they have to be licensed and registered, and the owner has to pass a written and physical competency test. This will severely cut down on the trafficking of illegal gun sales and greatly assist in the tracking of guns used in a crime.

    Got that?

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