It was answered before you asked it. Read the article.
Nothing happens to them, of course.
This is a due process means of removing guns from a dangerous individual.
You did not answer the question. What could the government have done to avoid failure in this case?
Huh? What does any of this have to do with a woman? WTF are you talking about?what stops a woman from carrying their own gun?
Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not do him wrong. 34 The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the homeborn among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not do him wrong. 34 The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the homeborn among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
For usf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List
Got to the section on
Weapons purchases by listed persons (No Fly No Buy)
Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not do him wrong. 34 The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the homeborn among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
And yet, you're ignoring the fact that being placed on the no-fly list (which bans you from buying a firearm) doesn't require a Court order.
Plus you aren't notified that you're on the no-fly list, until you ask.
Would you care to guess how many people were put on the list, by mistake, and how long it took for one person to get off of it.
SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.
Problem here is: no due process. You cannot simply take a list that somebody can add your name to simply because they suspect you in order to remove your rights. Let's say we did this for voting and gun rights then somebody like Trump was elected and chose to list people say in a party he wasn't part of on the list. Or to use the list of homegrown terrorists (like he listed Antifa).. and add members to that list, do you think they should have no rights?
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
i'm ok with that
not ignore the warnings, all 30+ of them
people seem to have this idiot idea that it's the governments job to protect us. it is not. In fact, numerous court decisions specifically denote that the government owes no one single individual any protection at all. therefore, what stops a woman from carrying her own gun to protect herself from an abusive ex?
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
That's what I said.
EDIT:
The ill informed USF is saying that no fly no buy is law. It's not and shouldn't be, for the reasons you and I have noted.
But a GVRO grants full due process. The target has ample opportunity to answer any evidence entered against him and the decision is made by a judge rather than some government bureaucrat.
Last edited by Timshel; 02-18-2018 at 06:54 PM.
What should they do if they are not going to ignore the warnings? I agree, but that's why we should empower citizens to act.
The FBI should not be able to strip anyone of their rights without due process.
Nothing. And this has nothing to do with your ex. It's not about a couple at all. You are way off topic.
Leviticus 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not do him wrong. 34 The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the homeborn among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.
David French (author) was on npr this morning talking about this topic. He said Jeb Bush and Rubio tweeted about it obsr the weekend.
In other news, usf has not returned to pick up his dunce cap.
Depends how the law is crafted and what protections the accused has. It can quickly become a tool to fuck with people, a la SWATTING, if done improperly.
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