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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    How is someone that sales a gun and makes a gun a perpetrator? Do we punish the beer manufacturers when a drunk driver gets behind the wheel of a car? As for the shooter, no mercy.

    People constantly refer to the part of the 2nd amendment that say "not" and "infringed". Most ignore an equally, if not more important, word in the 2nd.
    Looks like he also wants the Car Dealership and the Manufacturer held liable also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Nobody is talking about repealing any Amendment, nor grabbing anyone's guns, that is all NRA propaganda, and just to help you out, no Constitutional right is absolute, none, never have been nor will ever be, guns can be constitutionally regulated

    And importing mental health, which by the way the current President just cut funds to pursue, into the argument is just another way to deflect away from the three hundred million guns out there and the nearly open access to three million guns
    Just to help you out, the NRA does what WE say, not vice versa.
    It’ll be a lot easier to fund mental health programs than it will be to toughen gun laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You have a right to assemble, does that mean you and three of your buddies can walk into the White House and assemble in the President's office? Of course not, the right to assemble is regulated, does that mean it is difficult to exercise? All rights are regulated, why should the right you think you have to possess a gun be any different?

    Nearly all the shooters in recent mass shootings "didn't misuse the gun" until the moment they opened fire

    And forget the macho talk on an anonymous forum, based upon my experience the gun lovers who thought they were Chuck Norris actually turned out being Barney Fife

    Yet they misused it. There are millions upon millions that own the same types of gun that don't yet you want to pass laws that affect them.

    I say we pass laws making schools gun free zones and making it illegal to murder another person. Surely, that will stop such things.

    Based on my experience with those like you that claim certain guns shouldn't be legal, you're nothing but mouth and absolutely no action. I don't think I'm Chuck Norris. However, I'm more than willing for you to try and prove your claim about me being a Barney Fife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    We should wait on your to prove you claim about the video. Didn't you say it was wrong?
    Sorry, was busy with another thread, but it only took a minute, you asked, you got it

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35048251

    https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...ontrol/541710/

    https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/gu...ralia-updated/

    https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/15/...eech-australia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    How is someone that sales a gun and makes a gun a perpetrator? Do we punish the beer manufacturers when a drunk driver gets behind the wheel of a car? As for the shooter, no mercy.

    People constantly refer to the part of the 2nd amendment that say "not" and "infringed". Most ignore an equally, if not more important, word in the 2nd.
    Obviously the manufacturer should have no liability. The perp is the user of a gun in a criminal act.
    The SCOTUS is not going to change Heller as long as we have a 5-4 conservative balance. Will be 6-3 shortly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Looks like he also wants the Car Dealership and the Manufacturer held liable also.
    Why don't we hold the tree responsible that was used to make the wooden handle on a knife when someone kills someone with one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrubbaloe View Post
    Obviously the manufacturer should have no liability. The perp is the user of a gun in a criminal act.
    The SCOTUS is not going to change Heller as long as we have a 5-4 conservative balance. Will be 6-3 shortly.

    The store that sold the gun shouldn't unless they didn't follow the laws in place at the time it was sold.

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    I asked for proof and you posted propaganda. Care to provide proof this time?

    You claimed I was a Barney Fife. When are you going to try to prove that?

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    Apparently US freedom, is freedom from thought for the OP. The 911 part comes about, because several people listening to him probably jumped in front of a bus

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Nobody? Ever read for fat slob Michael Moore says about repealing it. He's not alone.

    I own FOUR of the type gun used in Florida. I have no doubt you think such guns should be illegal. I also have no doubt that you're not man enough to try and take mine from me.
    Are you this "brave" because you have guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    Are you this "brave" because you have guns?
    No. He is that "brave" because he hides behind the safety of a keyboard. While there are plenty on this board that could in fact back up that statement, he is not one of them. One of two things happen to braggarts like him in a firefight. Both generally within seconds. Either they are disarmed quickly and reduced to quivering, crying cowards in the fetal position or they are dead because they have no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    No. He is that "brave" because he hides behind the safety of a keyboard. While there are plenty on this board that could in fact back up that statement, he is not one of them. One of two things happen to braggarts like him in a firefight. Both generally within seconds. Either they are disarmed quickly and reduced to quivering, crying cowards in the fetal position or they are dead because they have no clue.
    As former military I am willing to bet an awful lot that I could take his gun away from him, all 4 of them, and he wouldn't have a chance to do a damn thing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Care to provide proof this time?

    Allow me.

    Gun homicides per 100,000 population per year
    Australia 0.16
    USA 3.6
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ted_death_rate

    The video in the OP is garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gotcha68 View Post
    As former military I am willing to bet an awful lot that I could take his gun away from him, all 4 of them, and he wouldn't have a chance to do a damn thing about it.
    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    It only took two minutes to see that the "Philosopher" is wrong

    The statistics comparing Australia and the US aren't in rough numbers, they are already pro rated based upon population, and when the narrator explaining it all in "other differences" she never covered, that was enough, the "Philosopher" is most likely an NRA sponsored video
    I have told you that you can have my guns in one condition. You personally have to come take them

    The real question is whether you are willing to die to take my right away? Are you?

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