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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    They could but they don’t. I know plenty of situations where kids in fistfights were not expelled.
    I think they do now under the zero tolerance policies even if it's mutual combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Did you know the number of school shootings went up dramatically after the assault rifle ban expired?
    Are you claiming that is cause and effect?......
    Banning anything is a useless exercise that only affects law abiding citizens.....any and all 'banned' or prohibited items will flow across our borders in seconds after
    any such law is passed....think....its never worked .... ever..like the 'war on drugs' or 'border security'
    ..this shooting is the fault of the the FBI....100%....thats is an undeniable fact and proves shootings like
    the one in Fla. and be stopped ....not every one, but definitely this one.....
    Denying US citizens is playing into Putins hands, he would like nothing better than to see the US citizens availability to weapons decreased....by any amount....
    and the more the merrier to him....cutting into our Constitutional rights would make happier than disrupting our elections.....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Looks like a baseline increase to me.
    Negligible and it looks like the high point in 2003 before it expired in 2003 and dropped to one of its lowest points in 2004 after it expired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Are you claiming that is cause and effect?......
    Banning anything is a useless exercise that only affects law abiding citizens.....any and all 'banned' or prohibited items will flow across our borders in seconds after
    any such law is passed....think....its never worked .... ever..like the 'war on drugs' or 'border security'
    ..this shooting is the fault of the the FBI....100%....thats is an undeniable fact and proves shootings like
    the one in Fla. and be stopped ....not every one, but definitely this one.....
    Denying US citizens is playing into Putins hands, he would like nothing better than to see the US citizens availability to weapons decreased....by any amount....
    and the more the merrier to him....cutting into our Constitutional rights would make happier than disrupting our elections.....
    So why ban “illegals“?
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Looks like a baseline increase to me.
    Thats ancient if it only goes to 2011.....cripes, it 2018
    FBI statics are as much bullshit and any other mass shooting stats....the FBI can't even make up its mind if its 3 victims or 6 victims that count.....
    Other stat sources count shootings regardless of the number killed....even if no one killed, it goes into their stats....

    CNN should have also pointed out that 'school shootings' count even if its shots fired on school property by gangs or simple robbery with no one being hurt....

    If you find somewhere has even remotely accurate stats let me know....I can't find any that satisfy me.....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Are you claiming that is cause and effect?......
    Banning anything is a useless exercise that only affects law abiding citizens.....any and all 'banned' or prohibited items will flow across our borders in seconds after
    any such law is passed....think....its never worked .... ever..like the 'war on drugs' or 'border security'
    ..this shooting is the fault of the the FBI....100%....thats is an undeniable fact and proves shootings like
    the one in Fla. and be stopped ....not every one, but definitely this one.....
    Denying US citizens is playing into Putins hands, he would like nothing better than to see the US citizens availability to weapons decreased....by any amount....
    and the more the merrier to him....cutting into our Constitutional rights would make happier than disrupting our elections.....
    BTW Putin’s Russia is much more restrictive on gun ownership than the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So why ban “illegals“?
    BECAUSE THEY'RE ILLEGAL, jerk.....

    Build a wall and deport those you don't stop....no jobs, no welfare, no citizenship ever, no anything and they'll stop themselves of flood California until it drowns....
    Prison for repeat offenders and drug smugglers.....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    BECAUSE THEY'RE ILLEGAL, jerk.....

    Build a wall and deport those you don't stop....no jobs, no welfare, no citizenship ever, no anything and they'll stop themselves of flood California until it drowns....
    Prison for repeat offenders and drug smugglers.....
    HAHaHa!!! But they will get in anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    BTW Putin’s Russia is much more restrictive on gun ownership than the USA.
    Damn right.....thats the best way to control your people....make it impossible to them fight you...and keep your army loyal to you and you only.....its what all dictators do....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Damn right.....thats the best way to control your people....make it impossible to them fight you...and keep your army loyal to you and you only.....its what all dictators do....
    HaHaHa! So he chooses to bans guns in his nation, but wants to make America weak by pushing us to ban them!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    HAHaHa!!! But they will get in anyway!
    You want to try denying us our Constitutional rights but don't want to try controlling our borders....whose side are you on ?

    Putins, Mexico or the one you live in ?

    Its been fun but now I gotta take a break.....later.
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    You want to try denying us our Constitutional rights but don't want to try controlling our borders....whose side are you on ?

    Putins, Mexico or the one you live in ?

    Its been fun but now I gotta take a break.....later.
    If Mexico is right and the US is wrong, I’m on Mexico’s side and will do what I can to bring America around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If Mexico is right and the US is wrong, I’m on Mexico’s side and will do what I can to bring America around.
    What the hell is Mexico right about....Americans are not invading Mexico, Mexicans are invading the US.....Mexican law does certainly allow anyone to
    illegally enter their country and they deport thousands back to central America when they are caught....or simply passed on to cross the border into the US.....

    Try it and see how long you will spend in a Mexican jail....I guarantee you will locked up....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    HAHaHa!!! But they will get in anyway!
    why do you cheer and support illegal action in one instance, but condemn it in another? isn't that a bit hypocritical?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Craft View Post
    Buying a gun illegally isn't difficult. How do you think ex felons obtain guns?
    I would also advocate a national database that records all gun transactions and matches owners to serial numbers. Anyone caught with a weapon, not on that database, should be subject to a jail sentence. There should also be a hotline to report people with mental problems who have weapons.

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