TOP (02-18-2018)
TOP (02-18-2018)
Not what well regulated meant.
Well regulated at that time meant well supplied.
Hence a well regulated militia man put put his hands on a weapon, and bullets and powder and patches and be out the door in a minute...see Minute Men for example.
See also unenrolled militia for further knowledge of their thought process.
The last two paragraphs are nothing more than your imagination as there were no police and the citizens were the military ( militia).
You just couldn't be more incorrect.
It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.
TOP (02-18-2018)
TOP (02-18-2018)
It's been shown useless words don't work yet your answer is to add more and try it again. Let me help you. Criminals intent on doing something like this don't read or pay attention to those words no matter how many you add. The words you want to add will only affect those that read and abide by them. For example, schools are gun free zones, therefore, despite the fact that I conceal carry as my state allows, I don't take one onto school grounds when I go. The ones those words you want to add aren't the ones you need to worry about doing something like this. Those that will do these shootings won't read or pay attention to any of them no matter how many you put.
christiefan915 (02-18-2018), ThatOwlWoman (02-18-2018)
Maybe, but I'm not buying that that is the only reason the 2nd was written. BTW, are you aware that several of your compadres here are stating that the U.S. military would never ever go after American citizens, armed or not? In that case, what power does a "tyrannical government" even have? The only thing I can think of is passing draconian laws restricting our freedom to speak, travel, act, etc. If we violate such laws, what would the government then do to enforce them and punish us? Use the military, of course. So once again we're back to the fallacy that somehow your (group your) guns are going to allow you (group you) to stand up against the "tyrannical government" and its military might.
It would make a nice movie, but like most movies it's far from reality.
christiefan915 (02-18-2018), ThatOwlWoman (02-18-2018)
First, the 2nd Amendment truly was only written to ensure the people have the ability to overthrow a tyrannical government, and thus to allow militias the opportunity to drill and train as needed. It is not in place to ensure personal use of firearms for the sake of self-defense, home defense, recreation, or hunting, though the individual right granted by the 2nd has the effect of protecting those uses.
As to the matter of our massive standing military, and it's civic commitment to the Constitution and the citizenry, that is an interesting dilemma. In ancient Rome, the legions began as an unpaid civic-minded, volunteer force, and eventually devolved into a mercenary force that essentially fought for the highest bidder. From the devolution of the Roman legions until the rise of nationalism, we didn't experience a lot of military forces who were motivated by civic virtue. In the modern West, it is much harder to imagine military servicemembers uniformly turning against their fellow citizens. The founders were wary of a standing army, because they feared it could be used for the purposes of tyranny, and Washington witnessed his own officers plotting the overthrow of the Confederation government. So, the only honest answer is that it's hard to imagine more than 1/3 (which is probably much too high of an estimate) of the current military serving a tyrannical state, but, at the same time, we don't really know what the future can bring, either.
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