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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Heroin does not kill people, people kill people? Have you ever heard seen Heroin overdose someone without a person using it?
    LMAO. "IF".....no one used it, why would it be illegal? Indeed there have been "many" examples of someone overdosing without USING IT...its often used as a weapon to murder someone with a "hot dose". But....as far as I am concerned, all drugs should be legal for personal use as Big Brother restricts the freedom of anyone who (in a truly free society) has the unalienable right to ingest or use whatever he/she wishes under the condition that use does not cross the threshold of robbing another citizen of their unalienable rights to life and liberty....in other words it should be subject to regulation only in public where the lives of other people are placed into danger by the choices made by another. Anyone's rights end at the threshold of transgressing on the rights of others to the same. Its called DUE PROCESS.

    The violent crime in this nation would be far less if Big Brother would take his nose out of the PEOPLE'S ASSHOLE. If someone wants to use......go for it, kill yourself. Not the "hypothetical" double standard you were phising for? Wrong bait....go ahead tell us why GUNS should be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    And hire hookers.........
    You guys are getting very socially liberal all the sudden!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    You guys are getting very socially liberal all the sudden!!!
    There it is.......... But actually I was thinking of something else. I'd like to see every conservative state in the nation dedicate a highway to BHO......he's been the best gift that the democrat voters have ever given the GOP in US history. He has moved the party so far left that the democrats in congress don't know whether to shit or go blind......he cost the democrats over 1000 seats of power during his presidency and ultimately the White House, both houses of congress, and the Supreme Court. I say that's worth dedicating a few tax dollars on highway and street signs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Probably? Prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Putin was against Hill all the time. He was not pro Bernie, except he thought it would scramble the system, which was his aim.

    Putin is trying to show that our system does not work and he was helping it go bad. When Trump came along, he saw a way to accelerate our demise. Trump is such a joke,, that he knew Trump would do real damage to America. Trump is making Putin look like a genius.

    Hillary's stance on Ars, is well known. https://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/tr...ns-gun-stance/ Look, I know you do no homework. that shows big time. You never make an attempt to educate yourself. That is desperately needed . Turn off Fox and do some damn reading.

    That certainly makes a lot more sense than some of the crap these Trump puppets are offering, Nordberg.

    They're not going to understand...but...that's why they still support someone like Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Well, then, fucktard, we seem to have answered the question. EMTs can't deny services, even if the patient becomes sick/injured while committing an illegal act, such as breaking into a building. Making heroin legal would not change the job of medical personnel one iota.
    Again, that's not what I asked you fucking retard.

    Just more proof of you being untrustworthy. But I already knew that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OODA View Post
    OK. You can't prove a claim you made. Didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    In the situations where the person you say should be forced to pay can't pay, does that mean the services can be refused?
    You are the dishonest person here, fucktard. It was SM who proposed this, and not me.

    Quote Originally Posted by OODA View Post
    The owner should call EMS, they should dry the bum out and force him to pay for the service rendered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    They could always ship him off to debtor's prison.
    Georgia?

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    5d. Debtors in Georgia
    Savannah, 1734
    The city of Savannah, once a part of Oglethorpe's utopian design, makes its beginnings in 1734.
    The development of Georgia was unlike all the other British colonies. First of all, it was the last to be created. Georgia was founded in 1733, 126 years after Jamestown was successfully planted. England and Europe as a whole were in the midst of an intellectual revolution known as the ENLIGHTENMENT. Enlightened thinkers championed the causes of liberty and progress. Many believed in the innate goodness of human beings. They asserted that even the worst elements of society might prosper if given the right set of circumstances.

    JAMES OGLETHORPE was such a thinker. He and a group of charitable investors asked KING GEORGE for permission to create a utopian experiment for English citizens imprisoned for debt. England's prison population could be decreased, and thousands of individuals could be given a new chance at life. With these lofty goals, Georgia was created.

    King George was not terribly concerned with the plight of the English debtor. His advisers pointed out that such a colony in Georgia might provide defense for the South Carolina rice plantations from Spanish Florida. He gave his assent to a charter and Oglethorpe acted.




    "...And this would turn out very well indeed in that it would encourage very many good families of average means to go to settle there as well as some very good workmen as carpenters, masons, tile makers, blacksmiths, farriers, locksmiths, wheelwrights, coopers, vine growers, shepherds, laborers, and others who would be most useful there. Instead of this, the greatest part of those who have already gone there are nothing but miserable ones both as to their manners and as to their fortunes..."

    – James Edward Oglethorpe, Original Papers, Feb. 11, 1737




    Here, the settlers would have to conform to Oglethorpe's plan, in which there was no elected assembly. Three major laws governed the colony. The first dealt with the distribution of land. The second and third reflected Enlightened ideals. No slavery was permitted in Georgia, and the possession of alcohol was prohibited. Each debtor was to receive 50 acres of land to farm. This land could not be sold. Silkworms were transported from Europe with the hope of developing a silk industry in Georgia's mulberry trees.

    Unfortunately, the plan itself was a miserable failure. Georgia residents complained that some citizens received fertile land while others were forced to work uncooperative soil. Since they could not buy or sell their land, they felt trapped. The mulberry tree plan failed, because the trees in Georgia were the wrong type for cultivating silk. The alcohol ban was openly flouted. Cries to permit slavery followed as the Georgians envied the success of their neighbors. Eventually many simply fled the colony for the Carolinas. King George revoked the charter in 1752 and Georgia became a royal colony. One of the world's best organized utopian experiments came to an abrupt end.

    http://www.ushistory.org/us/5d.asp

    An interesting aside for anyone who was unaware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Putin was against Hill all the time. He was not pro Bernie, except he thought it would scramble the system, which was his aim.

    Putin is trying to show that our system does not work and he was helping it go bad. When Trump came along, he saw a way to accelerate our demise. Trump is such a joke,, that he knew Trump would do real damage to America. Trump is making Putin look like a genius.

    Hillary's stance on Ars, is well known. https://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/tr...ns-gun-stance/ Look, I know you do no homework. that shows big time. You never make an attempt to educate yourself. That is desperately needed . Turn off Fox and do some damn reading.
    You and your ilk are doing Putin’s bidding. Good for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    5d. Debtors in Georgia
    Savannah, 1734
    The city of Savannah, once a part of Oglethorpe's utopian design, makes its beginnings in 1734.
    The development of Georgia was unlike all the other British colonies. First of all, it was the last to be created. Georgia was founded in 1733, 126 years after Jamestown was successfully planted. England and Europe as a whole were in the midst of an intellectual revolution known as the ENLIGHTENMENT. Enlightened thinkers championed the causes of liberty and progress. Many believed in the innate goodness of human beings. They asserted that even the worst elements of society might prosper if given the right set of circumstances.

    JAMES OGLETHORPE was such a thinker. He and a group of charitable investors asked KING GEORGE for permission to create a utopian experiment for English citizens imprisoned for debt. England's prison population could be decreased, and thousands of individuals could be given a new chance at life. With these lofty goals, Georgia was created.

    King George was not terribly concerned with the plight of the English debtor. His advisers pointed out that such a colony in Georgia might provide defense for the South Carolina rice plantations from Spanish Florida. He gave his assent to a charter and Oglethorpe acted.




    "...And this would turn out very well indeed in that it would encourage very many good families of average means to go to settle there as well as some very good workmen as carpenters, masons, tile makers, blacksmiths, farriers, locksmiths, wheelwrights, coopers, vine growers, shepherds, laborers, and others who would be most useful there. Instead of this, the greatest part of those who have already gone there are nothing but miserable ones both as to their manners and as to their fortunes..."

    – James Edward Oglethorpe, Original Papers, Feb. 11, 1737




    Here, the settlers would have to conform to Oglethorpe's plan, in which there was no elected assembly. Three major laws governed the colony. The first dealt with the distribution of land. The second and third reflected Enlightened ideals. No slavery was permitted in Georgia, and the possession of alcohol was prohibited. Each debtor was to receive 50 acres of land to farm. This land could not be sold. Silkworms were transported from Europe with the hope of developing a silk industry in Georgia's mulberry trees.

    Unfortunately, the plan itself was a miserable failure. Georgia residents complained that some citizens received fertile land while others were forced to work uncooperative soil. Since they could not buy or sell their land, they felt trapped. The mulberry tree plan failed, because the trees in Georgia were the wrong type for cultivating silk. The alcohol ban was openly flouted. Cries to permit slavery followed as the Georgians envied the success of their neighbors. Eventually many simply fled the colony for the Carolinas. King George revoked the charter in 1752 and Georgia became a royal colony. One of the world's best organized utopian experiments came to an abrupt end.

    http://www.ushistory.org/us/5d.asp

    An interesting aside for anyone who was unaware.
    Luckily a forward thinker came to Georgia and fixed all of Georgia's problems up to that time!
    The savior of Georgia was William Tecumseh Sherman,who purified Georgia with fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    1) not only 18 year olds choosing.
    2) who they choose must be at least 35.
    3) I’m happy for them to own some types of firearms.
    Cho set the record at 32 dead ... using a pair of handguns.

    Thank God, the Columbine butt buddies "booms" did not work ... or another 600 would be dead.

    18 is too young to vote. Even the ACA says they are children until the age of 26
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    And has banning it kept it out of America? Yet you advocate this for guns.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Heroin does not kill people, people kill people? Have you ever heard seen Heroin overdose someone without a person using it?
    Heroin shouldn't be illegal, nor is it enshrined in the Constitution. But idiot Jarod argument #63,279 is duly noted.
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