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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Did you read this cawacko? I believe he's serious about his views. And this is an abhorrent way to flaunt them.

    Daily Reminder You gungrabbers can't do shit Too bad so sad

    "Just a reminder that no matter how anti american you guys are, and how much you hate our constitution, you know deep down nothing will change from this. Gun rights are here to stay, and there is nothing you can do about it.

    The people that die from guns is a miniscule amount, hardly enough to even justify reporting about.

    We will keep our guns, and you can't do anything about it. Sorry, sucks to be you, but we will still have our guns."

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    Maybe I wasn't clear about what a two way street means. It means people on both sides need to be willing to talk. Not everyone is. That means you have to find those who are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    It's a simple matter really.

    Gun nuts believe the right to own guns is more important than a human life.
    LOL, you aren't part of that two way street. Name call and then say no one will have a conversation with you. One doesn't need to take a Dale Carnegie course to figure that out

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Only a brain-dead conspiracy theorist would believe that "our rights" are on the verge of being eliminated and that everyone should be armed to the teeth before the "jack-booted government thugs" come to get us.

    You seem to fit that description.
    I don't recall posting such. Any infringement of our rights will be fought tooth and nail, through our representatives, the courts and at the ballot box. I was pointing out your inability to grasp the difference between an insult and a promise. Nice deflection and straw man argument, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    It's a simple matter really.

    Gun nuts believe the right to own guns is more important than a human life.
    The Constitution is more important than any individual's life. Sad that you don't understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrippyHippy View Post
    Ugh, not sure who's more ridiculous on guns at this point Democrats or Republicans. It's certainly not guns going around killing people. But it's not rap music or transgenders either.

    It's the mental health, stupid.
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/cu...ti-police-raps

    Could it be rap music influencing them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Why don't you address the "liberal culture" that's led up to this. Parents afraid to discipline their children for fear of losing them. Boys in girls bathrooms. Burning and disrespecting our flag. Rap music glorifying rape, gangs and violence of all types. the list goes on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    they don't understand the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, nor the Supreme Court rulings on the Second Amendment. They generalize the whole concept of freedom, taking an complex abstraction and reducing it to a cliche that would fit a bumper sticker

    They all think regulating guns means the AFT is coming to their door to confiscate their toys, they deflect with the same debunked statistical "arguments" advanced by the NRA, repeat the lame talking points they've heard from the demogogues, anticipate Attila and the Huns are planning to break in to their house, and see themselves as Chuck Norris rather than the more applicable Barny Fife

    It's pointless, one of the major reasons we have 30,000+ Americans die from guns every year, and what now seems as kids getting shot in schools every other month, it has become as American as apple pie
    You just can't fix willful stupidity, and that's what we are dealing with here. There was another discussion where they started foaming at the mouth when I pointed out that the NRA gave up education in favor of lobbying for the arms makers years ago.... their own magazine American Hunter proves it. No, I'm "lying". Dumb fucktards, may they die at the hands of their own proxy dicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    It's a simple matter really.

    Gun nuts believe the right to own guns is more important than a human life.
    A person cannot own guns and also value human life? President Obama, President Bush, President Clinton, and a increasing number of minorities have guns and value human life.

    "Trump’s Victory Has Fearful Minorities Buying Up Guns"
    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/con...g-guns-n686881

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    The sympathy is what people mock as "prayers and thoughts".

    I said it was a two way street because people who who say out of my cold dead hands aren't the ones you are going to have much of a conversation with
    I was talking about an instinctive response to tragedy, not a response delivered after considering what others would think.

    But I do agree with your second sentence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I was talking about an instinctive response to tragedy, not a response delivered after considering what others would think.

    But I do agree with your second sentence.
    I would hope most people's first reaction to the shooting is utter horror. But I guess only each individual knows what they really feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    I thought your side is fed up with "thoughts and prayers"
    Thoughts and prayers from elected officials who have the power to act but don't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    I don't recall posting such. Any infringement of our rights will be fought tooth and nail, through our representatives, the courts and at the ballot box. I was pointing out your inability to grasp the difference between an insult and a promise. Nice deflection and straw man argument, though.
    Your right to carry a gun isn't in danger and you said nothing before this about reps, courts or ballots.The insult is to those of us who believe we need to address gun violence as a growing problem, while the pro-gun people can only respond with slogans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Your right to carry a gun isn't in danger and you said nothing before this about reps, courts or ballots.The insult is to those of us who believe we need to address gun violence as a growing problem, while the pro-gun people can only respond with slogans.
    Because there is no effective solution anyone has suggested. Some think if we just pass a law that is enough whether it is effective or not---it sounds good, appears as if we have "acted decisively," and we "beat the NRA."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Because there is no effective solution anyone has suggested. Some think if we just pass a law that is enough whether it is effective or not---it sounds good, appears as if we have "acted decisively," and we "beat the NRA."
    Do you have a suggestion?


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    That wasn't an insult, truth, have you ever seen an arguement supporting guns that falls outside of the parameters I noted above?

    And gun huggers don't want to address guns, conservatives are more interested in spreading guns, look at the gun carry reciprocal legislation they just snuck thru the House, they have no interest in any measure of any kind that could help alleviate gun violence or school shootings if it means taking a serious look at regulating weapons, weapons of any kind

    As I said, pointless
    glad you finally learned something.

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