ThatOwlWoman (02-16-2018)
they don't understand the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, nor the Supreme Court rulings on the Second Amendment. They generalize the whole concept of freedom, taking an complex abstraction and reducing it to a cliche that would fit a bumper sticker
They all think regulating guns means the AFT is coming to their door to confiscate their toys, they deflect with the same debunked statistical "arguments" advanced by the NRA, repeat the lame talking points they've heard from the demogogues, anticipate Attila and the Huns are planning to break in to their house, and see themselves as Chuck Norris rather than the more applicable Barny Fife
It's pointless, one of the major reasons we have 30,000+ Americans die from guns every year, and what now seems as kids getting shot in schools every other month, it has become as American as apple pie
ThatOwlWoman (02-16-2018)
That's a great attitude to guarantee nothing gets down. Generally when you start off insulting people it doesn't lend itself to the best environment for good talks.
canceled.2021.2 (02-16-2018)
J Craft (02-16-2018), leaningright (02-16-2018), Peridot (02-18-2018), Rune (02-16-2018), TOP (02-16-2018), TrippyHippy (02-16-2018)
That wasn't an insult, truth, have you ever seen an arguement supporting guns that falls outside of the parameters I noted above?
And gun huggers don't want to address guns, conservatives are more interested in spreading guns, look at the gun carry reciprocal legislation they just snuck thru the House, they have no interest in any measure of any kind that could help alleviate gun violence or school shootings if it means taking a serious look at regulating weapons, weapons of any kind
As I said, pointless
Why don't you address the "liberal culture" that's led up to this. Parents afraid to discipline their children for fear of losing them. Boys in girls bathrooms. Burning and disrespecting our flag. Rap music glorifying rape, gangs and violence of all types. the list goes on...
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
TrippyHippy (02-16-2018)
TOP (02-16-2018)
zappasguitar (02-16-2018)
when the constitution and bill of rights was ratified, it was made very clear what the new government could and could not do. there was nothing complex about it and the only reason it appears that way now is the fault of lawyers, liberals, and conservatives who all have their own agendas of destroying freedom. what makes things more ridiculous is the projection that most people provide in calling others 'barney fife', when they damn well know it is they, themselves, who would prostrate themselves before evil because they are cowards.
let us men be men and protect our society, or fall to ruin and slavery because you think that only the failures of government are the capable ones.
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
Yes, you ignore those debates in which people are willing to accept reasonable regulations if they will do something constructive. We have yet to hear any proposals that would have prevented any of these shootings. Most guns have been purchased legally with background checks. The guy in TX who killed the people in the church should not have been able to buy a guy but the Navy failed to report the required information.
Oh?Default It is pointless to exchange with a gun hugger on gun reform,
Why not scale a tax on ammunition, and ammunition supplies * to the number of innocent countrymen slain by gunfire the previous year?
* some gunners load their own, buy shells, bullets, primers, and powder separately. Tax that too.
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zappasguitar (02-16-2018)
A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.
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