Question For Guns Owners About Purchases

[Bourbon]

if you had deleted your post would we have known you were an idiot?.....

Good idea for you ... change the subject.

Thanks for your participation.

[Peridot]

Now that the racist have their boy in the White House gun sales have dropped off. Remington Arms is in the process of entering bankruptcy.

Remington has been garbage for a decade or two now, so their bankruptcy is welcome and unsurprising. Maybe if you knew anything at all you'd understand that.

[Peridot]

Move to West Virginia, if your breathing you can purchase a gun of your choice

NICS check is federal law and the same in all 50 states.

[Minister of Truth]

The South peacefully seceded.

Lincoln did not legally recognize their right to peacefully secede, and therefore still considered them to be his own disobedient citizens.

Yet they still attacked America, and started the war.

[Minister of Truth]

That's pretty typical in rebellions/secession. What if Half the US wanted to succeed right now. YOu would just say Okay, and allow it?

Technically, there isn't a constitutional mechanism to stop it, aside from Congressional power to declare war (doesn't legally need to be justifiable). As with the south, however, it's bound to be attempted by those states which are not populated by the best and brightest that this country has to offer, which will similarly lead to their downfall.

[SmarterthanYou]

Please excuse my ignorance here as I've not bought a gun and this isn't trying to make a political point one way or the other, i'm just curious about the process. Is it worth it (economically) for a gun store to make a sale to a shady type person without doing full background checks or is there too much liability involved or just not worth the hassle? Basically to boost sale numbers would some stores be willing (or even able to) let some rules slide?

it is impossible for a licensed dealer to sell a gun to someone without the required background check. any other type of sale gets a visit from the ATF and then serious charges.

[SmarterthanYou]

One, got anymore?

so the BS argument just got debunked, but you want more as proof??????? LOL

[USFREEDOM911]

That's pretty typical in rebellions/secession. What if Half the US wanted to succeed right now. YOu would just say Okay, and allow it?

California has been bringing it up and I say let them; but they're going to have a hard time travelling through all that Federal land, to get from city to city, and I don't think the US sells water to foreign lands, so there's that problem for them also.

Plus this doesn't even address to the situation where there are those in California who want to have the State divided into 3 States.

The middle and northern part of California are tired of SoCal dictating to the rest of the state.

[SmarterthanYou]

BTY ... if the Government was after my Guns, knowing what I know about the US Military, it wouldn't be difficult for them to take them.

this statement alone should be enough to tell you that we the people should own machine guns, grenades, rocket launchers, and any other weapon that the military would bring upon we the people. right?

[USFREEDOM911]

Probably why we need better federal guidelines. Not to mention interstate commerce issues.

Illinois has strict tough gun control laws, but their neighbor Indiana has almost none. That equals illinois citizens going to indidiana a lot to buy all their weapons. And why it must be settled at the federal level.

But doesn't that show that the Citizens of Illinois don't agree with the gun control laws, that were placed into law, in their state.

[USFREEDOM911]

if you had deleted your post would we have known you were an idiot?.....

But for that to happen, wouldn't he have to deleted all of his posts??

[SmarterthanYou]

but their neighbor Indiana has almost none. That equals illinois citizens going to indidiana a lot to buy all their weapons. And why it must be settled at the federal level.

[USFREEDOM911]

Remington has been garbage for a decade or two now, so their bankruptcy is welcome and unsurprising. Maybe if you knew anything at all you'd understand that.

This will just mean that other manufacturers will pick up the slack.

[CFM]

Please excuse my ignorance here as I've not bought a gun and this isn't trying to make a political point one way or the other, i'm just curious about the process. Is it worth it (economically) for a gun store to make a sale to a shady type person without doing full background checks or is there too much liability involved or just not worth the hassle? Basically to boost sale numbers would some stores be willing (or even able to) let some rules slide?

Absolutely not. One shady sale that resulted in a shooting like in Florida would cost them more than the financial gain from selling a thousand according to the laws.

[CFM]

10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

10 Pro-Gun Myths, Shot Down

Myth #4: More good guys with guns can stop rampaging bad guys.
Fact-check: Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians in the past 33 years: 0

• Chances that a shooting in a hospital emergency department involves guns taken from guards: 1 in 5
Myth #5: Keeping a gun at home makes you safer.

Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.

• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

• 43 percent of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.

• In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

Using suicides is meaningless unless you can prove the person wouldn't have done it except with a gun. No way to prove.

Most of what you call gun accidents are a result of people doing things they shouldn't have done and that could have been avoided. An accident happens by chance without cause. If someone is doing something they shouldn't be doing with a gun, that isn't an accident.