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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    A Bad Guy running at from 25 feet is going to run into some knuckles, that will dispace his teeth to the back of his neck.

    BTW I can bent elbow shoot a still get off 2 rounds of 147 grain HSTs ... dead, maybe not, but surely Fucked Up with some serious holes at close range.

    I still like my odds over his.

    Oh I'm not saying that you can't, I'm just saying that there is so many problems and
    variables in encounters and practicing with these things in mind is good. Anyway we
    all hope that we will never get involved in any of these. good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    Shooting should always be a last resort ... taking a safe escape route is always the best option.

    When cornered ... Fire Away ...
    When protecting family, friends or other loss of life ... Fire Away and ask for forgiveness later.

    But it they Fuck with your Dog ... empty the magazine and reload.
    holy shit, now I agree.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post
    Oh I'm not saying that you can't, I'm just saying that there is so many problems and
    variables in encounters and practicing with these things in mind is good. Anyway we
    all hope that we will never get involved in any of these. good luck

    If you're situational aware ... you'll have him sized long before he gets to 25 feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Police confirm an AR-15 rifle was used in today's school shooting. AR-15 style rifles were used in the Texas church shooting, the Las Vegas concert shooting, the Orlando nightclub shooting and Sandy Hook. The NRA says a ban on AR-15s wouldn't do any good.

    Let’s try and see, plus a huge buy back program.
    Who is to blame here, the white guy or the gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Who is to blame here, the white guy or the gun?

    The guy is always to blame...When the guy runs someone over with his car, it's the guys fault.
    when someone cuts the throats of 10 people it's the guys fault. inanimate objects are never brought
    to court and sentenced to jail in the real world, just in some fool minds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    Who is to blame here, the white guy or the gun?

    The Girl who wouldn't let him feel her up ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post

    The guy is always to blame...When the guy runs someone over with his car, it's the guys fault.
    when someone cuts the throats of 10 people it's the guys fault. inanimate objects are never brought
    to court and sentenced to jail in the real world, just in some fool minds

    Hands Up; Don't Shoot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    If you're situational aware ... you'll have him sized long before he gets to 25 feet.

    unless he pops up between cars in a dark parking lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by cash View Post

    unless he pops up between cars in a dark parking lot

    Then it's Hand to Hand Combat ... I till like my odds
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    "Good; because it's no one's business how many firearms someone else owns." U9 #108
    Define "no one's".
    CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
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    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence [defense], promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
    Intentionally or not, you're attempting the Sorites Paradox ruse.

    If a citizen wants a gun, fine.
    If a citizen wants two guns, why not?
    But how many guns does a citizen need?
    100?
    1,000?
    10,000?
    At some point is there no reason our government should not obey its obligation to its own charter? Attend to insuring domestic tranquility, promoting the general welfare, etc.?

    How many firearms was the Las Vegas shooter found with? Is that a private arsenal the government should not have taken notice of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    Define "no one's".

    Intentionally or not, you're attempting the Sorites Paradox ruse.

    If a citizen wants a gun, fine.
    If a citizen wants two guns, why not?
    But how many guns does a citizen need?
    100?
    1,000?
    10,000?
    At some point is there no reason our government should not obey its obligation to its own charter? Attend to insuring domestic tranquility, promoting the general welfare, etc.?

    How many firearms was the Las Vegas shooter found with? Is that a private arsenal the government should not have taken notice of?
    It's nobody's business how many guns a person has, since his right to bear arms "shall not be infringed".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    It's nobody's business how many guns a person has, since his right to bear arms "shall not be infringed".
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    I'm not in agreement with helmet laws and the reason is, I live in AZ and wearing a helmet during the summer is like sticking your head in an oven.
    Plus; regardless of what proponents say, helmets do restrict vision and hearing.

    One thing that helmet supporters always overlook, is the idea that while a helmet might save your life from slamming your head into a wall; it also has a big possibility of snapping your neck and letting your live the rest of your life paralyzed.
    Now I disagree entirely. I rode wearing a helmet for almost 20 years and lived in Phoenix for three of them. I agree your hearing is slightly degraded but I never had a sever vision obstruction while wearing one. What made me a huge supporter of helmets was when I hit some sand rounding a turn hit the curb and slid 40+ ft. On my noggin wearing away 5 layers of glass. Other than a head ache and severe road rash I was ok. No helmet and I wouldn't be here today. So I would rather risk a broken neck than a coffin.

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    "It's nobody's business how many guns a person has, since his right to bear arms "shall not be infringed"." E #131

    Our enumerated right to keep & bear arms is ROUTINELY infringed.

    Just a partial list:

    We're not allowed to possess a weapon:
    - in a law court
    - in a public school
    - on a commercial airliner

    Our Constitutionally enumerated right to keep & bear arms is infringed or usurped every day of the year.

    Welcome to the slippery slope E.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    Now I disagree entirely. I rode wearing a helmet for almost 20 years and lived in Phoenix for three of them. I agree your hearing is slightly degraded but I never had a sever vision obstruction while wearing one. What made me a huge supporter of helmets was when I hit some sand rounding a turn hit the curb and slid 40+ ft. On my noggin wearing away 5 layers of glass. Other than a head ache and severe road rash I was ok. No helmet and I wouldn't be here today. So I would rather risk a broken neck than a coffin.
    So you would rather be a paraplegic and have to put your family through keeping you alive for years.

    I also had a wreck while wearing a helmet.
    Cage driver turned left in front of me.
    Something caught the strap on my helmet and tore if off and it's a good thing it did; because the doctors said that if it had stayed on, the swelling from the concussion would have crushed by brain before the paramedics showed up.

    And yes, the investigation showed that the helmet came off, after the helmet and my head hit the top of the car.
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