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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    That is like answering the question, "Where are you from?"...with, "Somewhere."

    "Somewhere" is obvious.

    "A Christian" is obvious.

    But when asked "What is your religion?"...most sane people would answer with the name of a religion.

    So...ummm...you are a Christian, right?
    yes....was that not obvious.......Christian IS a religion, as is Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Yeah, but I can help you overcome that, PP. I mean that seriously...not as a joke.

    When you say that you have reached a conclusion about what you "believe" (on this existence of gods question)...you actually ARE saying that you have reached a conclusion about the guess you are making.

    People making that guess tend to disguise the fact that it is a guess...by using "believe."

    I do not do that. I do not do "believing."

    If I were to make a guess about whether gods exist or not...I would call it a guess.
    that is what you believe........I do not believe that......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    yes....was that not obvious.......Christian IS a religion, as is Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish.....
    Okay...you are embarrassed to go further. But since you said you got your education in a seminary, I expected you to be more proud of your denomination.

    No problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    that is what you believe........I do not believe that......
    I do not do "believing."

    I understand that you blindly guess that a god is the cause of existence...and that you want to disguise the fact that it is a blind guess by calling it a "belief."

    I expect at some point you will suggest that we all should show respect for your blind guess...because you do call it a belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Okay...you are embarrassed to go further. But since you said you got your education in a seminary, I expected you to be more proud of your denomination.

    No problem.
    you didn't ask about my denomination......protestant. reformed, of the Calvinist line......that should be sufficient.......nothing to do with pride, more to do with protection from online sleuths, of which we have a number......on a previous board I had someone track down my office and post information about it on the board.........

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    Still "phishing"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I do not do "believing."

    I understand that you blindly guess that a god is the cause of existence...and that you want to disguise the fact that it is a blind guess by calling it a "belief."

    I expect at some point you will suggest that we all should show respect for your blind guess...because you do call it a belief.
    sorry, again I guess we will just have to agree to disagree about just how stupid you actually are.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    you didn't ask about my denomination......protestant. reformed, of the Calvinist line......that should be sufficient.......nothing to do with pride, more to do with protection from online sleuths, of which we have a number......on a previous board I had someone track down my office and post information about it on the board.........
    One...thank you for the answer, PP.

    Two...sorry about the miscreant who did that. He or she is a jerk-off of massive proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    sorry, again I guess we will just have to agree to disagree about just how stupid you actually are.....
    I am not stupid...and it is not necessary to call someone with you disagree "stupid."

    But...those kinds of habits are hard to break...even for a person who claims to follow the teachings of Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I am not stupid...and it is not necessary to call someone with you disagree "stupid."
    but I don't........you are in rare company........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    but I don't........you are in rare company........
    Ahhh...another show of your Christianity.

    Okay...but perhaps you ought to pay attention to the words spoken by Jesus in the first sentences of Matthew 23:13, 14, 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Ahhh...another show of your Christianity.

    Okay...but perhaps you ought to pay attention to the words spoken by Jesus in the first sentences of Matthew 23:13, 14, 15.
    so close, so close......actually he speaks of me in verse 34
    Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    so close, so close......actually he speaks of me in verse 34
    Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
    Ecclesiastes 1:2 seems more appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Ecclesiastes 1:2 seems more appropriate.
    here's one for you and USF.....
    Ecc 7:8
    The end of a matter is better than its beginning

    I take for myself....
    Whatever exists is far off and most profound—
    who can discover it?
    25 So I turned my mind to understand,
    to investigate and to search out wisdom and the scheme of things
    and to understand the stupidity of wickedness
    and the madness of folly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Given the vast complexities of the universe(s), the incredible computer needed to look after it all would seem not much to resemble our usual idea of a father.
    That's why we have deities. They're omnipotent, and your idea of a father, isn't.
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

    -- The Left


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