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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    So...best you can do is to rant about me wanting to "bash Christians"...even though nothing of what I wrote does that in any way?

    C'mon, CB...you can do better than that.
    Again, at your age, you'll get your answer soon enough. The sooner the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    So...best you can do is to rant about me wanting to "bash Christians"...even though nothing of what I wrote does that in any way?

    C'mon, CB...you can do better than that.
    You're as transparent as glass Frank. Let's go over the check list, shall we?

    1. Leftist loon makes a thread challenging others to prove the existence of God. Check.

    2. See 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I do not see why either side is "sure."
    Ditto. It can't be proven nor disproven that a god/gods do or do not exist.

    I like the cosmology of the indigenous ppl where we live. The Anishinaabeg (Ojibwe) refer to Gichi-Manidoo, which we Europeans translate to "Great Spirit" and think of as God. However, the concept is far more complicated. The meaning assigned to the term is more accurately translated to "great mystery" because it's acknowledged that we cannot know for sure. Almost all that we see, hear, touch, interact with contains this mystery. That's reflected in the language, as the verbs indicate whether something is animate (possesses mystery/spirit) or inanimate. It gets even more complex as the cosmology includes our place within all that is here, rather than the more Western way of considering ppl as somehow distinct and part from creation, looking on and discussing it as though we are in a different room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Oh look, another leftist loon excuse to bash Christians. How original.
    Pretty sure that Christians aren't the only ppl who believe in god/gods.

    Why not add your opinion/beliefs rather than starting a spat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Ditto. It can't be proven nor disproven that a god/gods do or do not exist.

    I like the cosmology of the indigenous ppl where we live. The Anishinaabeg (Ojibwe) refer to Gichi-Manidoo, which we Europeans translate to "Great Spirit" and think of as God. However, the concept is far more complicated. The meaning assigned to the term is more accurately translated to "great mystery" because it's acknowledged that we cannot know for sure. Almost all that we see, hear, touch, interact with contains this mystery. That's reflected in the language, as the verbs indicate whether something is animate (possesses mystery/spirit) or inanimate. It gets even more complex as the cosmology includes our place within all that is here, rather than the more Western way of considering ppl as somehow distinct and part from creation, looking on and discussing it as though we are in a different room.
    Sure it can.

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    Thats why its called faith
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    You're as transparent as glass Frank. Let's go over the check list, shall we?

    1. Leftist loon makes a thread challenging others to prove the existence of God. Check.
    Actually, I made no such challenge.

    I merely asked if anyone COULD establish any of the four items.

    And the request went out to atheists who think they can do it also.

    Try to keep up.

    2. See 1.
    See my response above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Actually, I made no such challenge.

    I merely asked if anyone COULD establish any of the four items.

    And the request went out to atheists who think they can do it also.

    Try to keep up.



    See my response above.
    Many atheists believe they have proven God doesn't exist and use the theory of evolution to back up their claim. The problem is none of them have ever been able to provide me with the actual picture of my great, great, great, great . . . . great, great, great . . . . grandfather they claim I evolved from millions of years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    What about you, PP.

    Do you think any of those things can be established using logic, reason, science or math?
    I know that they are matters of choice.....those that demand proof have already made their choice not to have faith.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Oh look, another leftist loon excuse to bash Christians. How original.
    I don't think he's bashing Christians.....I just think he's finally realized something the rest of the world has known for millennia.....now is he trolling Christians?.....without a doubt......however he lacks the skill to set the hook.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I know that they are matters of choice.....those that demand proof have already made their choice not to have faith.......
    Wouldn't it have been easier...and more honest, to just say, "No?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I don't think he's bashing Christians.....I just think he's finally realized something the rest of the world has known for millennia.....now is he trolling Christians?.....without a doubt......however he lacks the skill to set the hook.....
    I was a "Christian" myself...and consider myself closer to the teachings of Jesus than most supposed Christians of the American Christian persuasion.

    I am not trolling them...and I am not bashing them

    I've asked some questions that seem upsetting some of you.

    You would do well to ask yourself why those questions upset you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    I've heard of Google.

    I want the opinions and thoughts of people in this forum.

    Ever hear of this forum?
    Nice try at avoiding the point, that the link provided proves you wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OODA View Post
    Nice try at avoiding the point, that the link provided proves you wrong.
    C'mon, Ooda...you might get away with that kind of crap with an amateur...but you won't with me, because I not an amateur.

    So anyway...'splain the math to us, Lucy!

    Jeez...I am beginning to think YOU are an amateur.

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