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    Default THE QUESTION OF WHETHER ANY GODS EXIST...

    ...cannot be answered using logic, reason, science, or math.

    It just cannot be done...or at least, I am asserting that it cannot. I've tried...never come close. I've challenged hundreds of others to give it a shot...none has ever come close.

    I am inviting anyone who can prove the assertion wrong...or show substantially that it most likely is wrong...to do so.

    To make my assertion even more specific...and more encompassing...I'm going to expand it:

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "At least one god exists."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "No gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that at least one god exists...than that no gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that no gods exist...than that at least one god exists."

    Comments would be appreciated.

    Proving me wrong would be even more appreciated.

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    Wait. You want there to be gods? I'm not real sure that's a good idea!

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    Nah...I don't WANT there to be gods.

    If there are...fine with me; if there are none...also fine.

    But both sides of the question often seem so sure.

    I do not see why either side is "sure."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    ...cannot be answered using logic, reason, science, or math.

    It just cannot be done...or at least, I am asserting that it cannot. I've tried...never come close. I've challenged hundreds of others to give it a shot...none has ever come close.

    I am inviting anyone who can prove the assertion wrong...or show substantially that it most likely is wrong...to do so.

    To make my assertion even more specific...and more encompassing...I'm going to expand it:

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "At least one god exists."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "No gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that at least one god exists...than that no gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that no gods exist...than that at least one god exists."

    Comments would be appreciated.

    Proving me wrong would be even more appreciated.
    I don't need to prove you wrong. At your advanced age, God will get his chance soon enough. It would be interesting to see your reaction when you get the proof.

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    Frank appears to have discovered the meaning of faith.....it would have been so much easier just to use a dictionary.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I don't need to prove you wrong. At your advanced age, God will get his chance soon enough. It would be interesting to see your reaction when you get the proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    ...cannot be answered using logic, reason, science, or math.

    It just cannot be done...or at least, I am asserting that it cannot. I've tried...never come close. I've challenged hundreds of others to give it a shot...none has ever come close.

    I am inviting anyone who can prove the assertion wrong...or show substantially that it most likely is wrong...to do so.

    To make my assertion even more specific...and more encompassing...I'm going to expand it:

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "At least one god exists."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "No gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that at least one god exists...than that no gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that no gods exist...than that at least one god exists."

    Comments would be appreciated.

    Proving me wrong would be even more appreciated.
    Ever hear of Google?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/genevei...ods-existence/

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    Given the vast complexities of the universe(s), the incredible computer needed to look after it all would seem not much to resemble our usual idea of a father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Given the vast complexities of the universe(s), the incredible computer needed to look after it all would seem not much to resemble our usual idea of a father.
    doesn't resemble the usual idea of "computer" either......

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    Quote Originally Posted by OODA View Post
    I've heard of Google.

    I want the opinions and thoughts of people in this forum.

    Ever hear of this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    Given the vast complexities of the universe(s), the incredible computer needed to look after it all would seem not much to resemble our usual idea of a father.
    Okay.

    But my point is that any comment about the existence or non-existence of gods...or the likelihood of the existence or non-existence of gods...

    ...essentially is a guess.

    That is an important point...if correct.

    Just looking for the opinion of others about whether it is or isn't...and why the others think that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    doesn't resemble the usual idea of "computer" either......
    What about you, PP.

    Do you think any of those things can be established using logic, reason, science or math?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    ...cannot be answered using logic, reason, science, or math.

    It just cannot be done...or at least, I am asserting that it cannot. I've tried...never come close. I've challenged hundreds of others to give it a shot...none has ever come close.

    I am inviting anyone who can prove the assertion wrong...or show substantially that it most likely is wrong...to do so.

    To make my assertion even more specific...and more encompassing...I'm going to expand it:

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "At least one god exists."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "No gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that at least one god exists...than that no gods exist."

    One cannot use logic, reason, science, or math...to substantiate "It is more likely that no gods exist...than that at least one god exists."

    Comments would be appreciated.

    Proving me wrong would be even more appreciated.
    Oh look, another leftist loon excuse to bash Christians. How original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Okay.

    But my point is that any comment about the existence or non-existence of gods...or the likelihood of the existence or non-existence of gods...

    ...essentially is a guess.

    That is an important point...if correct.

    Just looking for the opinion of others about whether it is or isn't...and why the others think that way.
    You do know there is a difference between having an opinion and guessing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Oh look, another leftist loon excuse to bash Christians. How original.
    So...best you can do is to rant about me wanting to "bash Christians"...even though nothing of what I wrote does that in any way?

    C'mon, CB...you can do better than that.

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