40 million people in poverty, USA.

**Joe Capitalist** · 02-19-2018, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Everyone is entitled to take what they want or believe the quote means.
I've posted mine.

The rest of this is just you voicing your opinion and I've already answered them.

No, you conveniently avoided this question so I'll ask you again:

if you have two people, one who goes to church every Sunday, prays every day, worships God every day and follows his word. The other is an Atheist but is twice as altruistic, twice as charitable, twice as magnanimous as the first one. Which one do you believe has the better chance of receiving your "infinite gains"?

And regarding the quote, there's really not much ambiguity to it. Essentially, Pascal is saying you should believe in God and be a good person because of how you will benefit from it in the end. I think that's an insincere and disingenuous message to advance. Like I said before, doing good is its own reward. God would rather see people doing "His work" because they know it's the right thing to do, not because of the "infinite gains" they will be rewarded with.

Pascal's quote is seriously flawed and deep down inside, I think you realize it.

**Joe Capitalist** · 02-19-2018, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by moon2012

Just wait until you're judged on the crap you've posted here, addlepate.

Funny how some of the racists here claim they're "religious" or "following God's word". I can bet without any doubt that God hates racism and those who practice it are NOT following God's word.
They're in for a BIG surprise when they take their final dirt nap.

**USFREEDOM911** · 02-19-2018, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich

No, you conveniently avoided this question so I'll ask you again:

if you have two people, one who goes to church every Sunday, prays every day, worships God every day and follows his word. The other is an Atheist but is twice as altruistic, twice as charitable, twice as magnanimous as the first one. Which one do you believe has the better chance of receiving your "infinite gains"?

And regarding the quote, there's really not much ambiguity to it. Essentially, Pascal is saying you should believe in God and be a good person because of how you will benefit from it in the end. I think that's an insincere and disingenuous message to advance. Like I said before, doing good is its own reward. God would rather see people doing "His work" because they know it's the right thing to do, not because of the "infinite gains" they will be rewarded with.

Pascal's quote is seriously flawed and deep down inside, I think you realize it.

I'm not avoiding it; because it doesn't matter who I think has the better chance.

As before the rest of your comment(s) are just you failing to understand free will.

**USFREEDOM911** · 02-19-2018, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich

Funny how some of the racists here claim they're "religious" or "following God's word". I can bet without any doubt that God hates racism and those who practice it are NOT following God's word.
They're in for a BIG surprise when they take their final dirt nap.

Since moon's post was directed at me, are you suggesting that I'm a racist?

**CFM** · 02-19-2018, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by moon2012

Does this mean that you believe in ...er....heaven ?

It's quite clear what I believe and how I believe one gets there.

Any more questions Mohammed?

**CFM** · 02-19-2018, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich

Funny how some of the racists here claim they're "religious" or "following God's word". I can bet without any doubt that God hates racism and those who practice it are NOT following God's word.
They're in for a BIG surprise when they take their final dirt nap.

I can bet without a doubt that you've claimed people are racist when, in fact, that couldn't be further from the truth.

I can bet without a doubt that God looks at you as violating the Commandment of "thou shall not bearing false witness" when you do. You're in for a big surprise when you take that dirt nap. Add that to you believing someone can buy their way into heaven and you'll have a surprise you won't be able to overcome.

**CFM** · 02-19-2018, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Since moon's post was directed at me, are you suggesting that I'm a racist?

DT should read the Commandment about how he shouldn't bear false witness by incorrectly claiming such things.

**moon** · 02-19-2018, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Since moon's post was directed at me, are you suggesting that I'm a racist?

You're an established JPP racist. Aren't you even aware of that ?

**USFREEDOM911** · 02-19-2018, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by moon2012

You're an established JPP racist. Aren't you even aware of that ?

Then you should be able to prove it, by posting a multitude of my comments that would support your accusation.

BUT

I'll settle for just one.

Let me know, when you think you've found it.

**moon** · 02-19-2018, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Then you should be able to prove it, by posting a multitude of my comments that would support your accusation.

BUT

I'll settle for just one.

Let me know, when you think you've found it.

You mean you've deleted ALL of your anti-Islamic and anti-Palestinian screeds ?

Wait.....you don't even think that's racism, do you .

**Joe Capitalist** · 02-19-2018, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by moon2012

You mean you've deleted ALL of your anti-Islamic and anti-Palestinian screeds ?

Wait.....you don't even think that's racism, do you .

Racism is a sin against God. Racists are all going to Hell

**Joe Capitalist** · 02-19-2018, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

I'm not avoiding it; because it doesn't matter who I think has the better chance.

As before the rest of your comment(s) are just you failing to understand free will.

You're avoiding answering it because it shoots Pascal's quote full of holes. Just admit it so we can all go home and stop with these silly excuses.
Does it bother you that an atheist that's kinder, more generous, more altruistic than you may have a better chance of getting to Heaven than you do?

**USFREEDOM911** · 02-19-2018, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by moon2012

You mean you've deleted ALL of your anti-Islamic and anti-Palestinian screeds ?

Wait.....you don't even think that's racism, do you .

Would you like to take a bet, that I've deleted the posts that you say I have; because I can ask the MODs to look at any deleted posts of mine and resurrect them.

If they find a racist one, I'll go on permabam; but if there are none, then you get placed on permaban.

What RACE are Islamic and Palestinians??

**USFREEDOM911** · 02-19-2018, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich

You're avoiding answering it because it shoots Pascal's quote full of holes. Just admit it so we can all go home and stop with these silly excuses.
Does it bother you that an atheist that's kinder, more generous, more altruistic than you may have a better chance of getting to Heaven than you do?

And you would be wrong; because it doesn't matter who I think is more right or more wrong.

If they don't believe then there is no chance.

**Joe Capitalist** · 02-19-2018, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

And you would be wrong; because it doesn't matter who I think is more right or more wrong.

If they don't believe then there is no chance.

But, but, but you said it's more than just 'believing'. You have to live it.

Make up your mind. Geez, you don't know what you believe, do you?

And you still won't answer my question because it destroys your argument.

Sad.