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    Nunes Memo Exposes the Anti-Trump Deep State

    https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha.../06/id/841627/

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    The Nunes memo - accurate or not - has no bearing on the Mueller investigation.

    Trey Gowdy: "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. It also doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice. So there's going to be a Russia probe, even without a dossier."

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    Clearly anyone who does anything to oppose the great and honorable Trump (golden be his name) is part of a deep state conspiracy, perhaps even brainwashed by George Soros himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Nunes Memo Exposes the Anti-Trump Deep State

    https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha.../06/id/841627/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    The Nunes memo - accurate or not - has no bearing on the Mueller investigation.

    Trey Gowdy: "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. It also doesn't have anything to do with obstruction of justice. So there's going to be a Russia probe, even without a dossier."
    The Russian probe is part counter intelligence—-that would go on without the Dossier. There’s also the issue of possible obstruction of justice by Trump.

    In other words, if you think Gowdy is rubber stamping the Trump/Russian conspiracy theory, you’re mistaken.

    Gowdy was also speaking in strictly legal terms. Politically, the Mueller investigation took a hit from both the Nunes memo and the recent Grassley memo.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

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    worth reading ..this is where we are.
    https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha.../06/id/841627/

    From the Nunes memo, there was, at the highest level of the FBI, a cabal determined to derail Trump and elect Clinton. Heading the cabal was Comey, who made the call to exonerate Hillary of criminal charges for imperiling national security secrets, even before his own FBI investigation was concluded.

    Assisting Comey was Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, whose wife, running for a Virginia state senate seat, received a windfall of $467,000 in contributions from Clinton bundler Terry McAuliffe.

    Last week, McCabe was discharged from the FBI. Seems that in late September 2016, he learned from his New York field office that it was sitting on a trove of emails between Anthony Weiner and his wife, Clinton aide Huma Abedin, which potentially contained security secrets.

    Not until late October did Comey inform Congress of what deputy McCabe had known a month earlier.

    Other FBI plotters were Peter Strzok, chief investigator in both the Clinton email server scandal and Russiagate, and his FBI girlfriend, Lisa Page. Both were ousted from the Mueller investigation when their anti-Trump bias and behavior were exposed last summer.

    Filling out the starting five was Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general under Loretta Lynch. In 2016, Ohr's wife was working for Fusion GPS, the oppo research arm of the Clinton campaign, and Bruce was in direct contact with Steele.

    Now virtually all of this went down before Robert Mueller was named special counsel. But the poisoned roots of the Russiagate investigation and the bristling hostility of the investigators to Trump must cast a cloud of suspicion over whatever charges Mueller will bring.

    Now another head may be about to fall, that of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

    If Mueller has given up trying to prove Trump collusion with the Kremlin and moved on to obstruction of justice charges, Rosenstein moves into the crosshairs.

    For the heart of any obstruction scenario is Trump's firing of James Comey and his boasting about why he did it.

    But not only did Rosenstein discuss with Trump the firing of Comey, he went back to Justice to produce the document to justify what the president had decided to do.

    How can Rosenstein oversee Mueller's investigation into the firing of James Comey when he was a witness to and a participant in the firing of James Comey?

    The Roman poet Juvenal's question comes to mind. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who will watch the watchmen?

    Consider where we are. Mueller is investigating alleged Trump collusion with Russia, and the White House is all lawyered up.

    The House intel committee is investigating Clinton-FBI collusion to defeat Trump and break his presidency. FBI Inspector General Michael Horowitz is looking into whether the fix was in to give Hillary a pass in the probe of her email server.

    Comey has been fired, his deputy McCabe removed, his chief investigator Strzok ousted by Mueller for bigoted anti-Trump behavior, alongside his FBI paramour, Page. Bruce Ohr has been demoted for colluding with Steele, who was caught lying to the FBI and fired, and for his wife's role in Fusion GPS, which was being paid to dig up dirt on Trump for Clinton's campaign.

    If Americans are losing confidence in the FBI, whose fault is that? Is there not evidence that a hubristic cadre at the apex of the FBI — Comey, McCabe, Strzok foremost among them — decided the Republic must be saved from Trump and, should Hillary fail, they would step in and move to abort the Trump presidency at birth?

    To the deep state, the higher interests of the American people must always coincide with their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Politically, the Mueller investigation took a hit from both the Nunes memo and the recent Grassley memo.

    Trump: "This memo totally vindicates 'Trump' in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their[sic] was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction ... This is an American disgrace!"

    Gowdy: "There's going to be a Russia probe, even without a dossier."

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    [QUOTE=anatta;2213253]worth reading ..this is where we are.
    https://www.newsmax.com/patrickbucha.../06/id/841627/

    when are you idiots retard recons going to stop rehashing old bull $hit over and
    over meaningless crap regurgitated by red necks lies constructed by right wing
    fools that will end up being a

    nothing burger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    Trump: "This memo totally vindicates 'Trump' in probe. But the Russian Witch Hunt goes on and on. Their[sic] was no Collusion and there was no Obstruction ... This is an American disgrace!"

    Gowdy: "There's going to be a Russia probe, even without a dossier."
    Do I need to explain it again lol?

    The left and the media conflate the Russian probe [counter intelligence re: election meddling] with the Trump/Russian conspiracy theory [collusion]. Virtually everyone agrees the Russians meddled: the issue is how much, what effect it had and etc.

    But just about everywhere outside the Lefty Bubble, people have abandoned the Collusion Theory.

    In fact, revelations over the past month or so [Strzok texts, Nunes and Grassley memos] have led serious credence to Trump’s contention that the Mueller probe was conceived as a partisan witch hunt. Not only is the collusion aspect of the Mueller investigation a waste of time but it was born out of corruption every bit as bad as what Trump has been accused of.

    So yeah, Gowdy is right: the Nunes Memo has no bearing on the Mueller investigation—because part of Mueller’s mandate is counter intelligence and partly an obstruction investigation. In other words, you can subtract collusion from the equation and Mueller still has a mandate.

    Which was the whole point. They needed Russian collusion to jumpstart the investigation into Trump because they wanted rid of him. After lift off, collusion is jettisoned.

    And guess what, hardly anyone takes collusion serious any more. Yet tens of millions of lemmings got sucked into the charade.

    I’m talking to one right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Do I need to explain it again lol?

    Yes, you need to explain it again lol.

    Because Gowdy also said: "The dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica ... there's going to be a Russia probe, even without a dossier."

    FYI, I have always been doubtful about Trump-Russia collusion, but it still needs to be investigated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Do I need to explain it again lol?

    The left and the media conflate the Russian probe [counter intelligence re: election meddling] with the Trump/Russian conspiracy theory [collusion]. Virtually everyone agrees the Russians meddled: the issue is how much, what effect it had and etc.

    But just about everywhere outside the Lefty Bubble, people have abandoned the Collusion Theory.

    In fact, revelations over the past month or so [Strzok texts, Nunes and Grassley memos] have led serious credence to Trump’s contention that the Mueller probe was conceived as a partisan witch hunt. Not only is the collusion aspect of the Mueller investigation a waste of time but it was born out of corruption every bit as bad as what Trump has been accused of.

    So yeah, Gowdy is right: the Nunes Memo has no bearing on the Mueller investigation—because part of Mueller’s mandate is counter intelligence and partly an obstruction investigation. In other words, you can subtract collusion from the equation and Mueller still has a mandate.

    Which was the whole point. They needed Russian collusion to jumpstart the investigation into Trump because they wanted rid of him. After lift off, collusion is jettisoned.

    And guess what, hardly anyone takes collusion serious any more. Yet tens of millions of lemmings got sucked into the charade.

    I’m talking to one right now.
    Here's the mandate, moron:

    "The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation...any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

    any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"

    What that investigation seems to have led to at this point are:

    1) Junior's personal meeting with Russian agents to obtain dirt on Clinton, AND
    2) the concomitant efforts by Trump and/or his close associates to cover up that meeting, AND
    3) direct efforts by Trump himself to derail, interfere with or even halt the investigations

    Isn't it something that Trump or his own kid are solely responsible for all three?
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    Comey has not and will not accuse Trump of 'obstruction of justice'. No one will. This is a counter intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation.

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    Former CIA Director James Woolsey explained how a counterintelligence investigation differs from a criminal investigation.

    "There is not obstruction of justice; you are not pursuing justice, you are just pursuing knowledge about what the enemy may be doing."

    "Criminal investigations… If somebody interferes with one of those, obstruction of justice is a real possibility to be charged with it. It takes an element of corruption there are various things that make it kinda hard to prove, but obstruction of justice is a legitimate concern in criminal investigations," he said.

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...-explains.html


    Definition of obstruction of justice:

    Section 802 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002.

    The text of the statute is relatively straightforward:

    Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsified, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under Title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


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    "A President can't obstruct justice if he is simply exercising his presidential authorities." - Alan Dershowitz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Comey has not and will not accuse Trump of 'obstruction of justice'. No one will. This is a counter intelligence investigation, not a criminal investigation.

    *******************

    Former CIA Director James Woolsey explained how a counterintelligence investigation differs from a criminal investigation.

    "There is not obstruction of justice; you are not pursuing justice, you are just pursuing knowledge about what the enemy may be doing."

    "Criminal investigations… If somebody interferes with one of those, obstruction of justice is a real possibility to be charged with it. It takes an element of corruption there are various things that make it kinda hard to prove, but obstruction of justice is a legitimate concern in criminal investigations," he said.

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/...-explains.html


    Definition of obstruction of justice:

    Section 802 of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002.

    The text of the statute is relatively straightforward:

    Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsified, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under Title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.


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    "A President can't obstruct justice if he is simply exercising his presidential authorities." - Alan Dershowitz
    18 USC 1505

    "Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either House or any joint committee of the Congress—"

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