Life After the Memo

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Life After the Memo

As many people know Republican congressman Nunes recently released a memo alleging that the FBI used bad information in order to obtain a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign. The Nunes memo also alleges that certain actors in the FBI did this out of a political preference for Clinton as opposed to Trump.

While the memo does not allege this it is fairly easy to extrapolate a use out of these illegal wiretaps. Embarrassing things could be leaked to the press, campaign strategies could be given to the Clinton camp, and it could even be used to force people to plead guilty to charges of lying to the FBI as what they tell the FBI in their interviews may not match exactly what they said in communications they believed to be private.

Russiagate

Let us go to the issue everyone is most concerned about. The Russia investigation. I believe it should continue. While a decent lawyer may be able to make a case for invalidating the guilty pleas rendered thus far using fruit of the poisonous tree arguments the investigation has already moved past becoming a legal issue. The terms used in the investigation could be legal ones and there could be legal strategies involved but it has already transformed into a political investigation. It would cause too much trouble to have it stopped so we should just let it continue. After all it has gone on for about a year with very little to show for its efforts.

FBIgate

If you have been reading my blog before I and other writers on the right have already stated that Obama wiretapped Trump. That is of course the short form of what happened. In essence we believe that President Obama used the powers of his administration to collude with friendly figures in the various law enforcement agencies to help the Democrat candidate win the 2016 election. This should not even be that surprising in all honesty. The Obama administration already has a history of doing this. The IRS was weaponized to target conservative groups for one and various agencies gave generous settlements to progressive groups for another.

Now that the mainstream has begun to connect the dots that we have long ago connected the next step should be taken. We need a second independent investigation into any attempt to weaponize the FBI in the last election.

Benefits

I consider this investigation to be more important than the Russian one. Foreign actors are expected to act like foreign actors. Russia, China, and for that matter even Ukraine and the pope all work to put leaders in place in America that they think will be beneficial to their nations. People forget how many world leaders tried to condemn Trump in an effort to detract from his campaign before the election. The FBI is something else. We don’t expect them to favor Democrats over Republicans nor do we expect them to favor Republicans over Democrats for that matter.

The FBI itself needs this investigation more than anyone. They do not realize yet but they are in serious trouble as an institution. As a general rule Democrats are against the FBI and other law enforcement agencies while the Republicans support them. Support from Democrats will not last. Democrats have convinced one of their core constituencies that law enforcement agencies are fundamentally racist. Organizations that have traditionally supported Democrats such as the ACLU have always been at odds with the Democrats and when push comes to shove Democrats will support them over the FBI as they are more popular with their base.

The FBI needs Republicans to trust it again. An institution without any popular support is very vulnerable to the whims of politicians. A credible investigation would be the only way to do that at this point. If the bureau refuses then Republicans, a significant portion of which already believe that the FBI worked against the Trump campaign, will not be swayed.

Grounds

Liberals like to think that there are plenty of grounds for the special counsel investigation into President Trump. If you were to think that then you would also have to admit that there are plenty of grounds for an investigation into the conduct of the FBI during the election.

You initially had the infamous tarmac meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch in which they discussed grand babies or something while taking private jets to meet in an out-of-the-way location. Then you have the confirmed fact that the FBI changed the language of its reports to make it consistent with the language used by the Clinton campaign. Think about that. A political campaign and the FBI making sure that they were using the same language to send a consistent message. Lastly you have recent revelations showing that even before the investigation into her private servers were over leadership in the FBI had already decided to exonerate her.

These are just some of the verified things that have come out and does not even include the potential for FISA abuse. The FBI and Democrats do not help things either by hiding behind national security when documents like the memo clearly include nothing that compromises it.

Again if there are enough grounds for a special counsel to be called on the Trump Russia collusion there is certainly more than enough grounds for a special counsel to be called on the conduct of the FBI during the election. I would even argue that it is even a greater national security issue to have a FBI compromised by the Democrats than to have a foreign government attempt to interfere with our election (mostly because all foreign governments try to influence the US election).

Media

The media needs to be mentioned in this as well as their behavior has been appalling. In most civilized countries the role of the media is to demand greater government transparency. It is only in the US where the media condemns the government for being more transparent. In any situation it is usually the government asking a journalist not to release a story to protect national security. It is only in the US where the journalists ask the government not to release things for national security.

Grassley Memo

As I write this article it seems that a second document was released detailing further FISA abuses by the FBI. Good job to both Senators Grassley and Graham for having the courage to release the document. It should be available for everyone to read by now. The only thing I will highlight is that in that document the senators allege that the FBI stated to the FISA court that the Steele document was credible because Steele himself was credible.

This is amazing to me. In most cases the prosecution would have to verify the credibility of the actual source used by the agent as opposed to the agent himself. After all the information is coming from the source. In this case the it looks like the FBI did not even bother finding out who the source was and instead accepted everything lock, stock, and barrel because apparently Steele was just such an incredible agent.

If the standard the FISA court uses is simply the word of the agents involved then it is no wonder that the court has rejected less than 20 of the more than 35000 applications it has received.

[Getin the ring]

The media has an agenda, mainstream media has no credibility, Americans know it.

We watch as they burn their house down, and take the Democrat Party with them

[blackascoal]

Life after the memo looks a lot brighter for democrats than it does for republicans.

[dukkha]

The terms used in the investigation could be legal ones and there could be legal strategies involved but it has already transformed into a political investigation.

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[Bourbon]

Life after the memo looks a lot brighter for democrats than it does for republicans.

Donny has really Fuck their minds up so much that they can't even see straight ...

[tsuke]

Donny has really Fuck their minds up so much that they can't even see straight ...

Im surprised Democrats are ok with people being put under surveillance effectively because "we trust the word of the agent". That means anyone can be put under surveillance without any real reason as the FBI should trust all their agents.

[Bourbon]

Im surprised Democrats are ok with people being put under surveillance effectively because "we trust the word of the agent". That means anyone can be put under surveillance without any real reason as the FBI should trust all their agents.

I have nothing to hide but I do have plenty to say if anyone is listening in.

[Tranquillus in Exile]

The media has an agenda, mainstream media has no credibility, Americans know it.

You prefer sites like thegatewaypundit.com?

In October 2017, Gateway Pundit published an article falsely implicating an innocent person as the shooter in the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. Gateway Pundit claimed that New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi had said ISIS might be behind the shooting. Callimachi denied ever making such an assertion.

In December 2017, Gateway Pundit published a reddit post as evidence that Democratic activists were committing voter fraud in the 2017 Alabama Senate special election. The redditor behind the post later said that the post was intended "as an obvious troll." When asked by the Washington Post, the writer of the Gateway Pundit post declined to say whether he had contacted the redditor to verify the information.

In January 2018, Gateway Pundit published a false story that Chuck Schumer received half a million dollars from pro-immigration groups just before a vote related to the government shutdown of 2018.

And that's just in three months.

[blackascoal]

Donny has really Fuck their minds up so much that they can't even see straight ...

They can't even see the disaster for their party that they walked right into.

Gotta' be the dumbest political suicide in history.

[Bourbon]

They can't even see the disaster for their party that they walked right into.

Gotta' be the dumbest political suicide in history.

Maybe the Center Right will form another Party

[dukkha]

Im surprised Democrats are ok with people being put under surveillance effectively because "we trust the word of the agent". That means anyone can be put under surveillance without any real reason as the FBI should trust all their agents.

It'smuch more then that..they KNEW the Steele dossier was garbage, but still "heavily relied" upon it 4x.

Comey signed off on a FISA (10/16) knowing is was "salacious and unverified" - then had the gaul to brief Trump
on it after Trump was POTUS because he wanted Trump to know it was out there.

Weasels..every damn one of them

[blackascoal]

Maybe the Center Right will form another Party

.. while the Republican Party becomes the Whigs.

[Cancel 2020.1]

The memo was an embarrassment for the GOP.

Once again, for those on the right: the memo is what a nothing burger actually looks like.

[dukkha]

The memo was an embarrassment for the GOP.

Once again, for those on the right: the memo is what a nothing burger actually looks like.

..Did you not see the Grassley-Graham letter confirms the Nunes memo
that the Steele dossier was the "bulk of the applications" and "heavily relied on".

Wasn't that the point of the Nunes memo?

[blackascoal]

..Did you not see the Grassley-Graham letter confirms the Nunes memo
that the Steele dossier was the "bulk of the applications" and "heavily relied on".

Wasn't that the point of the Nunes memo?