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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    He doesn't need to bond with his child if the child is under five years old. The mother needs to do the bonding and the nurturing.
    The father figure comes later.
    How quaint and old-fashioned. And utterly and completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    You're not suggesting that this is also to benefit men, are you?
    Tell me when feminists do anything for the benefit of men. Please name something.
    To empower women, power (responsibility, assertiveness) must be surped from men in order to do it.
    Of course it's to benefit men. A man consigned to one role -- that of worker bee provider -- loses out on life. Men are just as capable as women of strong and enduring bonds with their children, of selless love and devotion. I was lucky and had a Dad like that. My g-kids are lucky to have loving and involved dads too. If we provide for parents (as in parental leave), we are also providing for our own future by building stronger families and children who are loved and cherished by both parents. It's possible for a single parent to raise a well-adjusted and successful child, but it's much better if that child has two involved parents.

    It's too bad that you seem to see a war between the genders where it doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    I'm sorry that doesn't apply for small business owners. For corporate CEO's who are multimillionaires, yes.

    I think this whole deal is another effort to help remove more manliness from american society. I can guarantee you that men are not part at all of this family leave agenda.

    That's just my opinion.
    I agree that most small businesses would likely not be able to participate. But there are a number of benefits small businesses aren't able to provide their employees.

    If a woman has a new baby, she really needs to be able to stay home with that child in the first few weeks at least, I'd like to see 2 months. I would support tax incentives for employers to provide paid leave. I do not believe it should be federally mandated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Craft View Post
    I agree that most small businesses would likely not be able to participate. But there are a number of benefits small businesses aren't able to provide their employees.

    If a woman has a new baby, she really needs to be able to stay home with that child in the first few weeks at least, I'd like to see 2 months. I would support tax incentives for employers to provide paid leave. I do not believe it should be federally mandated.
    Well, if it turns into an entitlement then it only gets bigger and then it never goes away. The government wont resist it, it will be another avenue for cash.

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    American births have dropped below the population replacement rate.

    This is a timely incentive to promote an increase in our birth rate.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    How quaint and old-fashioned. And utterly and completely wrong.
    Who nurses the infant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    Who nurses the infant?
    If the baby is bottle-fed, anyone. If he/she is breast-fed, obviously the mom does. That doesn't mean that the dad can't change diapers, cuddle, rock, soothe, sing to, bathe, and otherwise care for and love his child.

    What about this bothers you so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    If the baby is bottle-fed, anyone. If he/she is breast-fed, obviously the mom does. That doesn't mean that the dad can't change diapers, cuddle, rock, soothe, sing to, bathe, and otherwise care for and love his child.

    What about this bothers you so?
    The mothers milk seals the bond.

    Homosexual male couples cannot nurse infants.

    Isn't this what this is all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    The mothers milk seals the bond.
    Homosexual male couples cannot nurse infants.
    Isn't this what this is all about?
    What the fuck? You think family leave for fathers is some gay rights thing?

    Mothers' milk does not "seal the bond." You are thinking of oxytocin, which is the "love hormone;" the hormone released during lactation is prolactin. Both are neurotransmitters. Males have oxytocin too. Here, read about it. Very interesting.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/oxytocin

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    What the fuck? You think family leave for fathers is some gay rights thing?

    Mothers' milk does not "seal the bond." You are thinking of oxytocin, which is the "love hormone;" the hormone released during lactation is prolactin. Both are neurotransmitters. Males have oxytocin too. Here, read about it. Very interesting.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/oxytocin
    We're at a point in this country now where some women wont even nurture their own children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    We're at a point in this country now where some women wont even nurture their own children.
    There have always been parents who produce offspring and then leave the raising of them to others. People like the Trumps have nannies and au pair employees to do the job for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    There have always been parents who produce offspring and then leave the raising of them to others. People like the Trumps have nannies and au pair employees to do the job for them.
    Most young women can't afford nannies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Why not?
    You haven't met this retard yet, I don't think.
    This guy is the absolute guru of idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philly rabbit View Post
    Most young women can't afford nannies.
    Nope, nor can a lot of women afford day care for their infants. What's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    You haven't met this retard yet, I don't think.
    This guy is the absolute guru of idiocy.
    There is an abundance of that around here.


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