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    Lightbulb Americans Are Mistaken About Who Gets Welfare

    No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . .

    . . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

    The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

    In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

    These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

    Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

    Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


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    Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
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    Have another drink.

    It's cute that you think a "HuffPost/YouGov survey" is representative of Americans.

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    not sure anyone is arguing, politically or economically that the problem is one race or the other, the problem itself is the issue

    but you wouldn't know that, this is all above your ability to understand isn't it? so sad.
    you need to interject race into your argument because that's all you have.

    So you're real intent of the thread is Trump is racist, Trump supporters are racist.

    problem is how do you get from there to here.

    you're a goofball dude
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    Guess you are unaware how per capita ratios work.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    That was easy ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    not sure anyone is arguing, politically or economically that the problem is one race or the other, the problem itself is the issue

    but you wouldn't know that, this is all above your ability to understand isn't it? so sad.
    you need to interject race into your argument because that's all you have
    Did you just scotch Bourbon's argument?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . .

    . . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

    The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

    In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

    These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

    Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

    Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009


    Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
    yeap near the levels of just population percents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    not sure anyone is arguing, politically or economically that the problem is one race or the other, the problem itself is the issue

    but you wouldn't know that, this is all above your ability to understand isn't it? so sad.
    you need to interject race into your argument because that's all you have.

    So you're real intent of the thread is Trump is racist, Trump supporters are racist.

    problem is how do you get from there to here.

    you're a goofball dude
    hahahaghahahahahahahaghaghaghaghahahahahahahahahah ahahaghaghag


    why do you racist hate being racists

    if you hate racist stop being one

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    hahahaghahahahahahahaghaghaghaghahahahahahahahahahahahaghaghag why do you racist hate being racists

    if you hate racist stop being one
    Yes, you're a hag.

    You're also a rayciss.

    These are your posts:

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    I spit in the face of the black guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Obama was nothing more than another black failure in a government job and another black family in government housing. Stupid nigger.
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    If you're black and you vote democrat, then you're a "nigger". If you're white and you vote democrat, then you're "white trash". If you're Asian and you vote democrat, then you're a "zipper head". If you're Hispanic and you vote democrat, then you're a "wetback".
    We don't let a rayciss like you define raycism, hag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    hahahaghahahahahahahaghaghaghaghahahahahahahahahah ahahaghaghag


    why do you racist hate being racists

    if you hate racist stop being one
    They can't help it, they're just being normal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    They can't help it, they're just being normal.
    The only blatant rayciss in this thread is Desh.

    Have another drink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . .

    . . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

    The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

    In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

    These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

    Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

    Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009


    Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
    These figures are worthless if they are not compared to and accompanied with the data that shows what percent of the entire population each group is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    These figures are worthless if they are not compared to and accompanied with the data that shows what percent of the entire population each group is.
    New it was coming ...

    So ... what percentage of Sexual Assaults are performed by Hispanics compared to Whites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . .

    . . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

    The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

    In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

    These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

    Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

    Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...ushpmg00000009


    Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
    Do I need to point out that you're not taken in account proportionality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Do I need to point out that you're not taken in account proportionality?

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    The cost to Welfare to the Government doesn't fluctuate based on Racial Group, it's paid out by the "INDIVIDUAL", not by Group Percentage.

    Nice try ...
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