Portugal’s Example: What Happened After It Decriminalized All Drugs, - Weed to Heroin

[Truth Detector]

"Drugs are far worse"

That's pretty vague. What drugs? That term describes everything from Nyquil to meth. If we're talking about weed, alcohol is absolutely, scientifically proven, safer than alcohol. And found to have no physically addictive qualities. Same for LSD and psilocybin. Harder drugs like heroin, PCP, meth could be argued as being worse than alcohol.

Alcohol is still pretty high up there in the danger zone with it's propensity to cause domestic violence, car accidents, alcohol poisoning, liver damage, so on and so forth. It is also easy to overuse and abuse alcohol. There are many drugs that it makes zero sense to keep illegal while alcohol can be found at the local supermarket.

We are talking about acid, heroin, meth etc. Not just weed. Go back and read the article.

[Truth Detector]

no

So heroin is like drinking a Margarita on a Friday night?

[anatta]

So heroin is like drinking a Margarita on a Friday night?

no. alcoholism -real alcoholism with the DT's and inability to function is a real debilitating addiction same as other drugs

[Leonthecat]

So heroin is like drinking a Margarita on a Friday night?

[Truth Detector]

no. alcoholism -real alcoholism with the DT's and inability to function is a real debilitating addiction same as other drugs

Alcoholism is a disease; perhaps mental. Try heroin and see if you can kick it after a few times. I guarantee you heroin will kill you must faster and make you dysfunctional.

While you're at it, try meth as well!

[Leonthecat]

Alcoholism is a disease; perhaps mental. Try heroin and see if you can kick it after a few times. I guarantee you heroin will kill you must faster and make you dysfunctional.

While you're at it, try meth as well!

[TrippyHippy]

We are talking about acid, heroin, meth etc. Not just weed. Go back and read the article.

Acid is waaaaaay safer than alcohol. I agree about heroin and meth though.

[dukkha]

Alcoholism is a disease; perhaps mental. Try heroin and see if you can kick it after a few times. I guarantee you heroin will kill you must faster and make you dysfunctional.

While you're at it, try meth as well!

Alcoholism is an organic disease -its real addiction ( why you go into the DT's) -people can die from physical alcoholism and alcohol withdrawal.

It's also a behavioral disorder - many addictions are both behavioral and disease based ( dual diagnosis)

[dukkha]

Acid is waaaaaay safer than alcohol. I agree about heroin and meth though.

back in the daze...I don't think i was addicted,but i surely was habituated to LSD.

[Bigdog]

Alcoholism is a disease; perhaps mental. Try heroin and see if you can kick it after a few times. I guarantee you heroin will kill you must faster and make you dysfunctional.

While you're at it, try meth as well!

Prescription opioid pain killers get you high just like heroin. And the majority of people are able to stop using them after daily usage for a week.

[sear]

"We are talking about acid, heroin, meth etc. Not just weed." TD #91

Indeed so.
It's yet one more reason I'm so impressed w/ Bd's enlightened choice of topic. I'll reduce it to elemental simplicity.

It is a Founding principle of the United States of America that Liberty is a:

- Creator endowed

- Constitutionally enumerated

- unalienable right.

What does Liberty mean? Liberty means the right & power to think, act, and express ones self in the manner of ones own choosing, provided that Liberty does not infringe or usurp the Liberty of another or others.

What does unalienable mean? Not to be separated, given away, or taken away.

Please note, neither of these definitions make pharmacological distinction, such as: your right to Liberty extends to herbs that have not been refined, but if refined, it can be an alkaloid like caffeine, but not an alkaloid like cocaine.

Drug War is a paramilitary usurpation of our Liberty right. Drug War violates both the spirit, the intent of our most fundamental national law, and specifically Art.3 Sect.3 of the United States Constitution, in addition to other parts, BOR Arts. #9 & #10 for example.

[dukkha]

Indeed so.
It's yet one more reason I'm so impressed w/ Bd's enlightened choice of topic. I'll reduce it to elemental simplicity.

It is a Founding principle of the United States of America that Liberty is a:

- Creator endowed

- Constitutionally enumerated

- unalienable right.

What does Liberty mean? Liberty means the right & power to think, act, and express ones self in the manner of ones own choosing, provided that Liberty does not infringe or usurp the Liberty of another or others.

What does unalienable mean? Not to be separated, given away, or taken away.

Please note, neither of these definitions make pharmacological distinction, such as: your right to Liberty extends to herbs that have not been refined, but if refined, it can be an alkaloid like caffeine, but not an alkaloid like cocaine.

Drug War is a paramilitary usurpation of our Liberty right. Drug War violates both the spirit, the intent of our most fundamental national law, and specifically Art.3 Sect.3 of the United States Constitution, in addition to other parts, BOR Arts. #9 & #10 for example.

^ fantastic perspective. well constructed.

why is "da gubmint" allowed to examine your piss without probable cause?
If abortion is a right to privacy, aren't my body fluids the same? stop probing me without my permission

[iewitness]

how about this: EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF [human]. ?

[Irish]

Never took Bigdog as a drug pusher.

[sear]

"examine your piss" n #102

I don't know the details. It would at least seem to raise a 5th Amendment issue, that of self-incrimination. (but as Schiff observes, so does filing federal income tax)

It gets a little murky. I get my healthcare through the VA. Sometimes they want me to make a big fat wee wee into a bottle.
As a government I'm inclined to agree with you. They probably shouldn't do that.

BUT !!

As an employer? If the employer's standard is, we don't want no steenkin' druggies, should they have that legal right?

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Is what we do on our own time none of the employer's business either?

- and -

Would it matter if there was military conscription? If an all volunteer military, then the government is the employer. But if conscripted, then under government control, shouldn't we also have the protections from government the Founders designated?