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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    A classic Watermark troll piece. Hmmm I just popped in here and it will be interesting to see who bites.
    Isn't it about time he grew up, the guy is pushing 30 ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    A classic Watermark troll piece. Hmmm I just popped in here and it will be interesting to see who bites.
    Since the push for reparations is a real things, while Watermark be trolling, the idea should be shot down quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    They don't read that and they don't care, they just like Bitching and Whining about Black People because they're feeling marginalized; as if they've done anything in their lives to make themselves superior.
    It's you, like most blacks, that can't read, boy.

    https://policy.m4bl.org/reparations/

    2nd sentence specifically says "black people".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackLivesMatter View Post
    The Case for Reparations

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ations/361631/

    And if thy brother, a Hebrew man, or a Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years; then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee. And when thou sendest him out free from thee, thou shalt not let him go away empty: thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and out of thy winepress: of that wherewith the LORD thy God hath blessed thee thou shalt give unto him. And thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in the land of Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee: therefore I command thee this thing today.

    — deuteronomy 15: 12–15

    Besides the crime which consists in violating the law, and varying from the right rule of reason, whereby a man so far becomes degenerate, and declares himself to quit the principles of human nature, and to be a noxious creature, there is commonly injury done to some person or other, and some other man receives damage by his transgression: in which case he who hath received any damage, has, besides the right of punishment common to him with other men, a particular right to seek reparation.

    — john locke, “second treatise”

    By our unpaid labor and suffering, we have earned the right to the soil, many times over and over, and now we are determined to have it.

    — anonymous, 1861

    Listen to the audio version of this article:Feature stories, read aloud: download the Audm app for your iPhone.

    I. “So That’s Just One Of My Losses”
    Clyde ross was born in 1923, the seventh of 13 children, near Clarksdale, Mississippi, the home of the blues. Ross’s parents owned and farmed a 40-acre tract of land, flush with cows, hogs, and mules. Ross’s mother would drive to Clarksdale to do her shopping in a horse and buggy, in which she invested all the pride one might place in a Cadillac. The family owned another horse, with a red coat, which they gave to Clyde. The Ross family wanted for little, save that which all black families in the Deep South then desperately desired—the protection of the law.


    Clyde Ross, photographed in November 2013 in his home in the North Lawndale neighborhood of Chicago, where he has lived for more than 50 years. When he first tried to get a legitimate mortgage, he was denied; mortgages were effectively not available to black people. (Carlos Javier Ortiz)
    In the 1920s, Jim Crow Mississippi was, in all facets of society, a kleptocracy. The majority of the people in the state were perpetually robbed of the vote—a hijacking engineered through the trickery of the poll tax and the muscle of the lynch mob. Between 1882 and 1968, more black people were lynched in Mississippi than in any other state. “You and I know what’s the best way to keep the nigger from voting,” blustered Theodore Bilbo, a Mississippi senator and a proud Klansman. “You do it the night before the election.”

    The state’s regime partnered robbery of the franchise with robbery of the purse. Many of Mississippi’s black farmers lived in debt peonage, under the sway of cotton kings who were at once their landlords, their employers, and their primary merchants. Tools and necessities were advanced against the return on the crop, which was determined by the employer. When farmers were deemed to be in debt—and they often were—the negative balance was then carried over to the next season. A man or woman who protested this arrangement did so at the risk of grave injury or death. Refusing to work meant arrest under vagrancy laws and forced labor under the state’s penal system.

    Well into the 20th century, black people spoke of their flight from Mississippi in much the same manner as their runagate ancestors had. In her 2010 book, The Warmth of Other Suns, Isabel Wilkerson tells the story of Eddie Earvin, a spinach picker who fled Mississippi in 1963, after being made to work at gunpoint. “You didn’t talk about it or tell nobody,” Earvin said. “You had to sneak away.”

    “Some of the land taken from black families has become a country club in Virginia,” the AP reported.
    When Clyde Ross was still a child, Mississippi authorities claimed his father owed $3,000 in back taxes. The elder Ross could not read. He did not have a lawyer. He did not know anyone at the local courthouse. He could not expect the police to be impartial. Effectively, the Ross family had no way to contest the claim and no protection under the law. The authorities seized the land. They seized the buggy. They took the cows, hogs, and mules. And so for the upkeep of separate but equal, the entire Ross family was reduced to sharecropping.

    This was hardly unusual. In 2001, the Associated Press published a three-part investigation into the theft of black-owned land stretching back to the antebellum period. The series documented some 406 victims and 24,000 acres of land valued at tens of millions of dollars. The land was taken through means ranging from legal chicanery to terrorism. “Some of the land taken from black families has become a country club in Virginia,” the AP reported, as well as “oil fields in Mississippi” and “a baseball spring training facility in Florida.”

    Clyde Ross was a smart child. His teacher thought he should attend a more challenging school. There was very little support for educating black people in Mississippi. But Julius Rosenwald, a part owner of Sears, Roebuck, had begun an ambitious effort to build schools for black children throughout the South. Ross’s teacher believed he should attend the local Rosenwald school. It was too far for Ross to walk and get back in time to work in the fields. Local white children had a school bus. Clyde Ross did not, and thus lost the chance to better his education.

    Then, when Ross was 10 years old, a group of white men demanded his only childhood possession—the horse with the red coat. “You can’t have this horse. We want it,” one of the white men said. They gave Ross’s father $17.

    “I did everything for that horse,” Ross told me. “Everything. And they took him. Put him on the racetrack. I never did know what happened to him after that, but I know they didn’t bring him back. So that’s just one of my losses.”

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    Show me the slave and the slave owner you laughable fuck, I'm Irish Catholic where are my reparations from the English? FYI Ta-Nehisi Coates and his father is a black Nazi POS and he can come find his reparations at the end of this rope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    It's you, like most blacks, that can't read, boy.

    https://policy.m4bl.org/reparations/

    2nd sentence specifically says "black people".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PraiseKek View Post
    Show me the slave and the slave owner you laughable fuck, I'm Irish Catholic where are my reparations from the English? FYI Ta-Nehisi Coates and his father is a black Nazi POS and he can come find his reparations at the end of this rope.
    Can someone please pass the box of tissues ... preferably the soft ones ... we don't want any nose irritation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Reparations for what.? There is no GIANT WHITE CONSPIRACY holding down blacks. Blacks are failures because they are mentally inferior and everybody knows it

    1. Black-americans come in last in all standardized tests. Asian-americans do fine on all the tests so it's not due to cultural bias in the tests.

    2. Africa is by far the poorest and most backward continent on the planet. All of black africa is now controlled by blacks and has been for decades so it's not due to racism.

    3. No black has ever won a Science Nobel Prize unless you count one in 1979 for the semi-science of economics. They have won many nobels in non-brain fields like Peace and also in Literature so it is not due to racism.

    4. Out of 1552 chess grandmasters in the world, only THREE are black.
    If black are inferior then why are they so good at basketball and football! ???!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I read it all BAC. I understand it all. I understand all of it was wrong. IMO, there is no case for reparations in the U.S.
    Maybe if we look at history, we can see the roots of the slave trade.
    I'm BAC .. not BLM, who created this thread. This is my first post in this thread.

    That being said, respectfully, I have no interest in revisionist 'thought' on the horrors of slavery or reparations. None of that will matter.

    America is coming to gripes with its disgusting racist past, as evidenced by the rejection of all things confederate, including its 'heroes.' The tide demonstrates that rejection will continue and intensify .. and as the nation continues to get browner .. the remedies of reparations will be determined by that society, not this one.

    I suspect that reparations will come through grants and awards to higher education, and other benefits .. and there will be nothing that this society can do about it.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    I'm BAC .. not BLM, who created this thread. This is my first post in this thread.

    That being said, respectfully, I have no interest in revisionist 'thought' on the horrors of slavery or reparations. None of that will matter.

    America is coming to gripes with its disgusting racist past, as evidenced by the rejection of all things confederate, including its 'heroes.' The tide demonstrates that rejection will continue and intensify .. and as the nation continues to get browner .. the remedies of reparations will be determined by that society, not this one.

    I suspect that reparations will come through grants and awards to higher education, and other benefits .. and there will be nothing that this society can do about it.
    They're angry that their Pure White Monopoly is getting a Flavor Injection, and their Women are liking the change in the taste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourbon View Post
    They're angry that their Pure White Monopoly is getting a Flavor Injection, and their Women are liking the change in the taste
    One can only hope THAT America is on the receiving end of a barrage of hundreds of 50MT Nukes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    A classic Watermark troll piece. Hmmm I just popped in here and it will be interesting to see who bites.
    There's already some who think this was written by BAC.
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    The Fish are shure Biting today.
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    So why should people who never owned slaves pay people who were never slaves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    I'm BAC .. not BLM, who created this thread. This is my first post in this thread.

    That being said, respectfully, I have no interest in revisionist 'thought' on the horrors of slavery or reparations. None of that will matter.

    America is coming to gripes with its disgusting racist past, as evidenced by the rejection of all things confederate, including its 'heroes.' The tide demonstrates that rejection will continue and intensify .. and as the nation continues to get browner .. the remedies of reparations will be determined by that society, not this one.

    I suspect that reparations will come through grants and awards to higher education, and other benefits .. and there will be nothing that this society can do about it.



    Aren't there already grants and awards based on minority race? Even back in the late 80's There were all sorts of scholarships my friends were eligible for that I wasn't based on nothing more than skin color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So why should people who never owned slaves pay people who were never slaves?
    Good question for anyone who ever ask you ...

    Get back to us if it ever does.
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