blackascoal (01-22-2018), Phantasmal (01-22-2018)
I get your angst. It's three weeks. When things cool down and three weeks passes, the pressure will be on the House. If McConnell backs out, if trump doesn't have any control over his Nazi base in the House, the govt. will shut down, and Republicans can't spin it again. Every day that passed, the country would blame Democrats more and more this time around.
The under educated, that is. As seen on this very board.
Right now, they have McConnell's back to the wall, with the country watching
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
blackascoal (01-22-2018), Phantasmal (01-22-2018)
I don't think the majority of everyday American Democrats are hard-core far-left ideologues. I think they are center-left.
I believe some sensible, fiscally responsible and fair plan will be devised for the Dreamers. This is my hope anyway. One of my concerns is how to be fair to all the would be immigrants who have for years patiently been abiding by the rules of proper immigration to the U.S. and waiting for their turn.
What was passed today had nothing to do with DACA, it was never supposed to. It was a spending bill.
In the end both sides will get things they want and things they don't want. The solution needs to be what is in the best interest of American citizens...not the Republican Party, not the Democrat Party and not even the Dreamers. We shall see.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
blackascoal (01-22-2018)
I wish I could share your optimism, but I don't.
Three weeks from now Trump and republicans aren't going to do anything but dance and blame democrats. They feel no pressure, no obligation to do anything but pander to their base.
Why would McConnell feel any pressure about a promise when he's felt no such pressure to date?
Republicans will stage some vote on immigration that won't pass and McConnell's promise is fulfilled.
Even if Trump were to sign legislation allowing Dreamers to stay while insisting on all manner of barricades to citizenship .. HE WINS and potential democratic control of Congress takes a huge nosedive.
We'll be right back to 2016 with millions of democratic voters sitting on their hands instead of going to the polls. Hispanic voters will learn that democrats cannot be trusted.
This is a disaster.
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
canceled.2021.3 (01-22-2018)
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
Stretch (01-22-2018)
So I take it you're voting GOP in the mid-terms?
Relax, your precious dreamers are going to be just fine. Schumer doesn't even have a bill put together yet, and Trump said he would sign it as long as the wall was in there, along with an end to chain migration and that idiot lottery system. Sit back and relax, and probably by the end of March, you'll have 800k new democrats(actually a few million more if new information coming to light is correct)
“The Communist party must control the guns.”
― Mao Tse-tung
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”-Generally attributed to Uncle Joe Stalin
“Everything under heaven is in utter choas; the situation is excellent.”
― mao tse-tung
BRUTALITOPS (01-22-2018)
BRUTALITOPS (01-22-2018)
BRUTALITOPS (01-22-2018)
these dumbass democrats actually thought that they, the party of takers and handouts, could actually win a game of chicken vs. the people that actually do not like government and probably enjoyed it being shutdown the last couple of days. They aren't sending their best.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
blackascoal (01-22-2018), J Craft (01-22-2018)
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