Schumer backs down

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So the argument being proffered by Bourbon and Archives is that this was an elaborate scheme to give the democrat party an issue to run on in 2018. That is an interesting thesis. I guess that means the democrat party won’t take any DACA deal since they want an issue for the spics.


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Wrong

If the GOP doesn't put together some kind of bipartisan immigration component, and there exists a good number of GOP moderates who would agree to such, they will be faced with the same circumstances they were last week and McConnell will have to honor his commitment and a clean DACA bill up for a vote, which would pass

Predictably, the House, probably on orders from the White House, would table it, not even put it up for a vote, which means the failure to deal with immigration falls directly on the GOP. Another issue for the Democrats to hammer home in November, not mention killing any of the President's 2018 agenda

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Wrong

If the GOP doesn't put together some kind of bipartisan immigration component, and there exists a good number of GOP moderates who would agree to such, they will be faced with the same circumstances they were last week and McConnell will have to honor his commitment and a clean DACA bill up for a vote, which would pass

Predictably, the House, probably on orders from the White House, would table it, not even put it up for a vote, which means the failure to deal with immigration falls directly on the GOP. Another issue for the Democrats to hammer home in November, not mention killing any of the President's 2018 agenda

You are wrong so often, you don’t know how not to be. The democrat party got rolled on this.

To think this can be a major issue in 2018 is fantasy

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What did the Democrats gain today?

CHIP is now off the table, and the GOP can not hold 9 million kids hostage again in 3 weeks.
CHIP has been extended for 6 years.

Schumer is such a Loser




Because it was just a CR that lasts 3 weeks.... the GOP has LESS leverage than they had before.

Republicans were going to be complicit in every murder committed by an illegal. They knew they had to bow to Dems' demands, and press for an immigration bill that the House will HAVE TO vote on. Otherwise, Republicans would continue to get blamed for the lack of an immigration bill.

Notwithstanding trump's campaign ad that had the country laughing at him (again), Republicans told Turtle Man that he'd better get his ass out there and commit to working to get immigration done. He's a lying sack of shit, and he was forced to detail his path toward a good faith negotiation.

Hell....If I were Schumer, I'd have told trump to extend DACA as is for two years or more, and he'll end the filibuster.

Nonetheless, the real culprit here is Ryan. He isn't allowed to bring any bi partisan immigration bills to a vote.

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Republicans were going to be complicit in every murder committed by an illegal. They knew they had to bow to Dems' demands, and press for an immigration bill that the House will HAVE TO vote on. Otherwise, Republicans would continue to get blamed for the lack of an immigration bill.

Notwithstanding trump's campaign ad that had the country laughing at him (again), Republicans told Turtle Man that he'd better get his ass out there and commit to working to get immigration done. He's a lying sack of shit, and he was forced to detail his path toward a good faith negotiation.

Hell....If I were Schumer, I'd have told trump to extend DACA as is for two years or more, and he'll end the filibuster.

Nonetheless, the real culprit here is Ryan. He isn't allowed to bring any bi partisan immigration bills to a vote.

^This is your brain on crack; don't be a crack head.

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I know it's really not your intention to be honest you're after all just a troll but keep in mind the chunar offered to do a bill to fund the military and McConnell turned it down just so you know what the truth is douchebag

I don't even bother anymore

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This day in history "The Schumer Surrender-"

LMAO.

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Trump offered CHIP, Dems said 'NO'.
All these kids can be served by the State/County Health Departments in every county & state.

They are. It's funded by the Feds.

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You are wrong so often, you don’t know how not to be. The democrat party got rolled on this.

To think this can be a major issue in 2018 is fantasy

No extra credit for those in the Illiterate Dumbfuck Club. Once you're there, you're there. No need to continually demonstrate your ignorance.

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I disagree. They will all come up with a plan of some kind there.

You haven't been paying attention. Senate will attach this to a mandatory spending bill, and Ryan will bring it to a vote. It insulates him from the Nazis in the House, who haunted Boner, and now Ryan

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lots of deal,possibilities. the question is will Dems deal for DACA?
I think at this point they have to

Sure, according to Schumer, they were even willing to give the President Mexico's funding for the Wall, but the President yet again, changed his mind

I'll predict the scenario for you, there will be no serious negotiations over immigration, the White House, regardless of the Senate GOP, will never take a defined position, pushing this week's events till February. We will get a rerun next month

And then the Debt Ceiling follows, good luck on getting any of the President's agenda thru in 2018, but the Administration probably know this, and are already planning to scapegoat the Democrats once again as the culprits. Difference then will be that the Democrats have the commitment McConnell made today to fall back on, the games have just begun

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It ain't going to impact all the Brown and Black People who are already American's ...

November is coming ...

If a deal on DACA occurs before March 5th. The DACA recipients get to stay here.
If there's no deal on DACA by March 5th, and Trump starts deporting DACA recipients ... November is coming ...
If there's no deal on DACA by March 5th, but Trump does NOT deport DACA recipients, this will cause the MAGAts to go crazy, since their dream of deporting brown people will not be happening.

Either Way ... November is coming ...

Correct.

Watch Republicans stop claiming that Democrats shut down the govt. over DACA, the closer Nov. gets.

Dem's just bought every Latino vote in the nation.

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It't Impossible for Children with NO Free Will to Immigrate Legally or Illegally ... what are you talking about?

As a Child, did you have a say on where you lived?

No more than he had a say in the fact that his sister, is also his mother.

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You are wrong so often, you don’t know how not to be. The democrat party got rolled on this.

To think this can be a major issue in 2018 is fantasy

This one^ never has anything to offer, he can't never refute nor even argue anything another says beyond "your wrong," and then followed by some inane personal attack

Boring, like watching paint dry, real cork

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This one^ never has anything to offer, he can't never refute nor even argue anything another says beyond "your wrong," and then followed by some inane personal attack

Boring, like watching paint dry, real cork

So what you are actually saying is that I ALWAYS refute what you are saying?

I already knew that, but thanks for confirming

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He got a commitment from the GOP that if the immigration issue isn't resolved by the end of the CR the Senate will hold an up and down vote on a clean DACA Bill. If that happens it will pass, moderate Republicans support it, and then when the House predictably tables the resolution, probably on orders from the White House, the Democrats will have the high ground and another issue to run on in 2018

In addition, now there is even more pressure on the GOP to come up with a bipartisan immigration bill, other wise, they own the failure

And the debt ceiling is due April, the President's inability to deal has pretty much sunk his 2018 agenda, if there ever really was one

There already is a 68 vote bi partisan bill rotting on Ryan's desk. He isn't allowed to bring it to a vote...as Boner wasn't before him.

The only issue has been the House. Schumer effectively forced Ryan's hand. If they're smart, we'll see any new Senate bill attached to the funding bill.