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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    This is neither here nor there nor is it a gotcha question but what did you think when Colin said Hillary would be in jail if she was a regular person
    Can you outline which of Trumps implemented policies you oppose?

    Cessation of DACA?
    Enforcement of immigration laws?
    Judicial appointments?
    Tax cuts?
    Did you want us to stay in Paris Accords?
    Drilling in ANWR?
    Elimination of individual mandate?
    Eliminating regulations?
    Slowing pace of NEW regulations?

    What exactly offends your “classical liberal”, “Reagan conservative” principles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    Trump isn't very presidential. Didn't candidate Trump suggest that he could act presidential if he wanted?

    With great effort, Trump might manage it for brief periods.
    I doubt Trump will succeed in sustaining such effort for 3 years.
    #30, having trouble reading what you responded to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    He had no chance because we are so accustomed to government doing everything for us the thought of what he proposed makes people faint. Instead we get R's and D's fighting over which sides big government is better
    Johnson is a fucking idiot. Hence your support

    Can you outline which of Trumps implemented policies you oppose?

    Cessation of DACA?
    Enforcement of immigration laws?
    Judicial appointments?
    Tax cuts?
    Did you want us to stay in Paris Accords?
    Drilling in ANWR?
    Elimination of individual mandate?
    Eliminating regulations?
    Slowing pace of NEW regulations?

    What exactly offends your “classical liberal”, “Reagan conservative” principles?

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    You're up late on a school night ILA. I just hope your sorry ass isn't from the same southern states my family comes from. Bless your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You're up late on a school night ILA. I just hope your sorry ass isn't from the same southern states my family comes from. Bless your heart.
    Can you outline which of Trumps implemented policies you oppose?

    Cessation of DACA?
    Enforcement of immigration laws?
    Judicial appointments?
    Tax cuts?
    Did you want us to stay in Paris Accords?
    Drilling in ANWR?
    Elimination of individual mandate?
    Eliminating regulations?
    Slowing pace of NEW regulations?

    What exactly offends your “classical liberal”, “Reagan conservative” principles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You're up late on a school night ILA. I just hope your sorry ass isn't from the same southern states my family comes from. Bless your heart.
    Why is where I am from so important to you? Are you some creepy stalker?

    Unlike you, I love where I live and don’t come on here whining about it every day like a little bitch like you do.

    “Oh California is so bad”

    “Oh California is so expensive”

    Blah blah blah

    You are too much of a pussy to live in the south

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    He had no chance because we are so accustomed to government doing everything for us the thought of what he proposed makes people faint. Instead we get R's and D's fighting over which sides big government is better
    pretty much so.
    Bernie shows you that the kids want cradle to the grave health care, but it doesn't stop there with free college etc.

    The pursuit of happiness isn't enough of a government guarantee anymore. We demand happiness instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtue Signaler View Post
    Why is where I am from so important to you? Are you some creepy stalker?

    Unlike you, I love where I live and don’t come on here whining about it every day like a little bitch like you do.

    “Oh California is so bad”

    “Oh California is so expensive”

    Blah blah blah

    You are too much of a pussy to live in the south
    LOL. Another racist internet tough guy like CFM. I bet my southern roots go way before yours. Look at you being a little ankle biting bitch. And you brag you told people off on this board you're tough.

    You're just another groupie ass bitch as the 415 said so well. Good on you ILA

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    "Bernie shows you that the kids want cradle to the grave health care, but it doesn't stop there with free college etc." n #37
    I appreciate your apparent determination to take the narrow-minded, status-quo perspective on it.

    Yet in so doing, you accept that we ALREADY have 12 years of "free" government school education; or "brain washing" if you prefer.

    If you feel your opposition to Sander's scheme for "free college" (your term) is valid; why do you stop there?

    Why is ANY of this "free" schooling acceptable to you? If you're going to stand on principle, why all the half-stepping? 12 years is OK with you, but 14 years is too much ?! WTF ?!
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    "I saw with my own eyes who Trump really was as a person."
    Trump has been in the national spotlight for a generation. I find it hard to believe any informed person was not aware he was a bullshitting con man, out to sell you frozen steaks, Trump vodka, crappy real estate "universities", bankrupted casinos, and Russian-financed hotels. A guy who used bankruptcy as a long term financial strategy....yeah, that is a guy that is on the up and up.

    I guess I can excuse this guy's naivete, but something about this article strikes me as less than genuine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    I appreciate your apparent determination to take the narrow-minded, status-quo perspective on it.

    Yet in so doing, you accept that we ALREADY have 12 years of "free" government school education; or "brain washing" if you prefer.

    If you feel your opposition to Sander's scheme for "free college" (your term) is valid; why do you stop there?

    Why is ANY of this "free" schooling acceptable to you? If you're going to stand on principle, why all the half-stepping? 12 years is OK with you, but 14 years is too much ?! WTF ?!
    I support Single Pay, because it's a viable paid for government heath expansion for universal access.
    Plus universal medical billing codes. It would be funded by taxation in the budget.
    Unlike Medicade expansion which is not dedicated funding.

    Education needs to be done by the states with some block grants from the feds.
    We could take the money used to fund the Dept of Education itself -close that federal bureaucracy down -
    and send it to the states for actual education.

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    "I support Single Pay, because it's a viable paid for government heath expansion for universal access.
    Plus universal medical billing codes. It would be funded by taxation in the budget.
    Unlike Medicade expansion which is not dedicated funding." n #41
    Well stated.

    Some say the VA has a useful system that provides quality healthcare & is some of the most affordable healthcare in the U.S. (on a per procedure basis, I imagine). VA advocates particularly like their universal records regime, so that any VA patient can enter any VA medical facility anywhere in the country, and the doctor, with just the patient's ID number can access the patient's entire medical file.

    I'm not advocating it. But as you've apparently put some thought into it, what would you think about expanding a VA type system, to eventually cover most U.S. tax payers?
    Would you consider that "single payer"?
    And how about doing that first, and then privatizing it, somewhat akin to the way we privatize some prisons?
    "Education needs to be done by the states with some block grants from the feds.
    We could take the money used to fund the Dept of Education itself -close that federal bureaucracy down -
    and send it to the states for actual education." n #41
    I'm all for economizing.

    BUT !!

    e. pluribus unum
    Our economy has globalized.
    We compete not merely as individuals against one another, but as a nation against other producers.
    - We compete with Germany and Japan for cars.
    - We compete with China for electronics.
    - We compete elsewhere, at world-class levels.

    And that is the idea behind national standards.

    It might not seem like it, but education is quite likely a matter of national security.

    WHY ??

    Napoleon said armies travel on their bellies, revealing Napoleon's acknowledgement of the importance of maintaining his supply lines to the battle front.
    But in the 3rd millennium, we must be particularly careful to not prepare to re-fight the previous war.
    The U.S. next big threat could be a cyber-war that would cripple the nation, and be over before we had time to load a cannon.
    In our 3rd millennium our military runs on $$$. And to get the military $$$ we need, we need a robust economy. Otherwise we'll end up like North Korea or the Soviet Union, where the military gets the $$$ it needs, and the people eat tree bark, if they're lucky.
    So if we are to maintain our economy to maintain our military, we need an educated labor force at least equal to if not superior to any potential enemy.

    That's what national education standards are about.
    Bitter experience has taught us, if / when we leave it to the States, students in States like Mississippi end up paying the price.
    "It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18

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    I don't know what the author of the article in the OP is surprised about. Douchebag Donald had changed his position on literally every single issue when he made his move on the presidency. The man was a lifelong leftist, and most often registered Democrat, who had given max contributions to Carter and Mondale, as well as being close friends with the Clintons. He was on tape as being in favor of partial-birth abortion. He liked to run in the same circles as Hugh Hefner and Vince McMahan.

    You can believe that he has truly come-over to the populist right, or you can simply accept that he made a deal with the right to represent its politics in exchange for political power. Either way, you really shouldn't be surprised that he backtracks on things that he says, such as coming after Crooked Hillary. Backing down was a fairly pragmatic move, because he had suddenly inherited a country to run, and she may still wind-up in the crossfire of the Mueller investigation as it is. Most people I talked to during the election cycle believed he was not serious about the wall (as speculated by talk about that mysterious NYT interview he gave behind closed doors). If he had intended to backtrack from the wall, he clearly sees it as politically necessary at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    LOL. Another racist internet tough guy like CFM. I bet my southern roots go way before yours. Look at you being a little ankle biting bitch. And you brag you told people off on this board you're tough.

    You're just another groupie ass bitch as the 415 said so well. Good on you ILA
    What are you blathering about?

    Why are you afraid to answer a simple question?

    I love how your lefty leanings are being exposed. Start another thread about how bad California is for business while you do absolutely nothing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    LOL. Another racist internet tough guy like CFM. I bet my southern roots go way before yours. Look at you being a little ankle biting bitch. And you brag you told people off on this board you're tough.

    You're just another groupie ass bitch as the 415 said so well. Good on you ILA
    I don't recall asking about your "southern roots". Maybe it was your ancestors that owned slaves since you say they run so deep. Maybe that is why you are such a virtue signaler and want to buddy up to BAC?

    Would you care to interpret that sentence? I am a smart guy, but unfortunately I am challenged when reading idiocy like you just posted. My guess is you are drunk again? Good on ya

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