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    Default Another government shutdown!

    Newt Gingrich tried it, and it cost him his job and the American public millions of dollars. Now the GOP, with control of all 3 branches of gov't, is at it again...but this time they are laying (or at least trying to blame) the Democrats.

    Funny that, seeing how the GOP has been the Party of NO for 8 years, and how they REFUSED any negotiations from the Dems this past year under Trump-icana. But here is a more level viewpoint that I found interesting:

    In the simplest and most direct terms, the Democrats are certainly to blame for the government shutdown. They decided to block, en masse, a continuation of government funding that included nothing with which they disagree. That is obstructionism, and it is irresponsible. But Republicans are to blame, too. They could have pushed to change the rules to allow for automatic funding resolutions to patch these very impasses, taking brinksmanship off the table. Such funding mechanisms could and should include fiscally conservative provisions that limit spending increases until Congress acts. Republicans have not shown much interest in such reforms. They are also to blame for not having moved expeditiously to forge a compromise on DACA. The president’s uninformed and inconstant leadership on this issue has not helped. As to who will be blamed, I have every confidence it will be the Republicans. The public sees Republicans as the anti-government party. That idea is deeply imbedded in the public consciousness, as much as Democrats are viewed as the party of broadening the welfare state. No set of facts will change that perspective overnight.

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...a-blame-216487
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    How do they control all three branches? Be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    How do they control all three branches? Be specific.
    Republicans have a President,and majorities in the House and Senate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shallon Peterson View Post
    Republicans have a President,and majorities in the House and Senate
    That's 2 branches. The House and Senate combined make up the Legislative branch. President is Executive. The 3rd branch is Judicial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shallon Peterson View Post
    Republicans have a President,and majorities in the House and Senate
    And what does the Judicial branch have to do with government funding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    How do they control all three branches? Be specific.
    Look it up, dammit. I'm sick & tired of doing the homework for lazy, willfully ignorant "conservatives" who are essentially trying to avoid acknowledging a fact that does not reflect well on their leadership.
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    day late dollar short......complaining about government shutdowns after they are solved.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    That's 2 branches. The House and Senate combined make up the Legislative branch. President is Executive. The 3rd branch is Judicial.
    to be fair, Trump will be appointing close to 150 judges over the next three years.....

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    shut it down! lets do it for at least a month. 3 days is just sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Look it up, dammit. I'm sick & tired of doing the homework for lazy, willfully ignorant "conservatives" who are essentially trying to avoid acknowledging a fact that does not reflect well on their leadership.
    He was baiting you into showing your ignorance of how the government works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    to be fair, Trump will be appointing close to 150 judges over the next three years.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    shut it down! lets do it for at least a month. 3 days is just sad.
    That's easy to say if you're not the one who's paycheck is affected, or the recipient of whatever program gets halted in the shutdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    What the hell are you celebrating? Seems that whenever conservative gov't screws you over, you blame everyone else but them. Case in point, see the OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shallon Peterson View Post
    Republicans have a President,and majorities in the House and Senate
    That is not control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    That is not control.
    How so? If you have the majority votes in both houses, it is. The problem now is the GOP is feuding among itself (to a degree) in addition to this latest disaster of gov't shutdown.
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