CNN Poll: 56% of Americans Say DACA Is Not Worth a Government Shutdown

[Cancel 2020.1]

when have I ever been afraid to say what I think or what I mean or what I believe?

For me to describe myself as "someones guy" or an official supporter, I have to be fervently all in on them At least on like 90%+ of the issues. At least that's how I perceive it. Perhaps the definition is different for yourself and that is why there is break down. But for me there are some seriously contrasting issues that I feel very strongly about. For starters, I am not a protectionist. I believe in free trade (as long as we aren't tangling ourselves in webs of weird ass trade alliances where unelected euro bureaucrats can determine our own economic policy, that isn't "free" to me). I am also very in favor of net neutrality as I have said many times on here, and I am against the drug war. I am also against the NSA spying and the massive 4th amendment violations this administration is helping to partake in (though to be fair both sides do this one so it cancels out for me).

I really don't care what you think. I love trump for his twitter, his taxes, his judges, and his FU to the world. That shit is great for me. And truthfully he probably HAS delivered for me more than any other president in my life time. But I am very strict on what I say I "support." If I have major serious disagreements on numerous issues of policy, I don't consider myself a supporter. However, I do enjoy him and think he's doing a pretty good job. I concede that.

It's more a "defense" thing. Within the context of JPP, you're not objective about him. You're as protective of him as his most ardent defenders.

I think you know this; you sort of relish the role, but I'm not sure it's possible to take that stance here and then pretend your straddling some imaginary fence because of disagreements on some of the issues.

It's no biggie, but you're not really distinguishable from the average Trump apologist on here.

[BRUTALITOPS]

we disagree

[USFREEDOM911]

Liberals obviously are hoping that if they repeat that the GOP is responsible for the shut down and that if they say it enough times, they can make it the truth; but they're going to have a difficult time convincing people that DACA was a reason to try and kill the Budget Bill, which had nothing to do with DACA.

[Minister of Truth]

Sorry we're not watching the polls like retards and instead are just doing what's best for the country party.

It's hurting the party.

[Darth Omar]

Liberals obviously are hoping that if they repeat that the GOP is responsible for the shut down and that if they say it enough times, they can make it the truth; but they're going to have a difficult time convincing people that DACA was a reason to try and kill the Budget Bill, which had nothing to do with DACA.

The political problem for democrats is that there are two separate issues at work: one is who is responsible for the shutdown.

Even if they succeed in pinning that tail on the republican donkey it doesn’t mitigate the second issue: democrats are putting the interests of illegal aliens ahead of voters. And they can’t spin their way out of it.

What would compel democrats to go to the mat, politically, for DACA? They won’t/can’t admit it because it would be political suicide for them, but they need an influx of poor immigrants to maintain power.

[Darth Omar]

Americans might support DACA, but not to the level where they are willing to shutdown the government over it. The numbers people quote, like 90%, are that they probably are only 90% "sure whatever" when it comes to the issue. Not full on passionate. This is reflected in the current CNN poll where they would rather have government open than care about cheater dreamers.



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timoth...-down-n2437156

Dreamers are a side bar and a deflection.

What democrats are really fighting for is chain migration and the diversity lottery or whatever it is they call it. And the longer this shutdown drags on, the more people are going to realize what it’s really about.

800,000 Dreamers won’t swing an election but the status quo immigration policy can and will.

[Bourbon]

No matter what you do, no matter how hard you fight it, America will get Browner and Blacker with or without you and there're "no" Law that's going to Stop Brown and Black People from Multiplying and Mixing and Diluting with White's.

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[Darth Omar]

No matter what you do, no matter how hard you fight it, America will get Browner and Blacker with or without you and there're "no" Law that's going to Stop Brown and Black People from Multiplying and Mixing and Diluting with White's.

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Thanks for admitting what the shutdown is all about lol.

Can we get you a microphone?

[Micawber]

Americans might support DACA, but not to the level where they are willing to shutdown the government over it. The numbers people quote, like 90%, are that they probably are only 90% "sure whatever" when it comes to the issue. Not full on passionate. This is reflected in the current CNN poll where they would rather have government open than care about cheater dreamers.



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timoth...-down-n2437156

Therefore Republicans shouldn't have done it.

[Micawber]

Graham told reporters on Capitol Hill that he thinks Mr. Trump has his "heart right" on the issue of immigration reform, but says "every time we have a proposal it is only yanked back by staff members."

"As long as Stephen Miller is in charge of negotiating immigration we are going nowhere. He's been an outlier for years," added Graham,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/governm...-live-updates/

[PraiseKek]

Therefore Republicans shouldn't have done it.

The overwhelming majority of republicans voted for the extension, only 5 democrats would cross the aisle in the senate, so spare us your laughable bullshit.

[PraiseKek]

Graham told reporters on Capitol Hill that he thinks Mr. Trump has his "heart right" on the issue of immigration reform, but says "every time we have a proposal it is only yanked back by staff members."

"As long as Stephen Miller is in charge of negotiating immigration we are going nowhere. He's been an outlier for years," added Graham,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/governm...-live-updates/

Graham is the outlier, he supports illegal immigrant amnesty without border security and always has.

[Bourbon]

Thanks for admitting what the shutdown is all about lol.

Can we get you a microphone?

No need ... unless you're Deaf, Dumb, Blind and Stupid ... any Intelligent Human Being should be able to determine that on their own.

[Getin the ring]

It's about the votes .. Democrats like Schumer and Pelosi will be gone soon, and they will be left with Elizabeth Warren, and of course Oprah, so there's that

[Irish]

Poll Shows Most Americans Blame Trump and GOP for Shutdown Mess
In past years, the president has argued that the responsibility to keep the government running lies with the White House

As President Donald Trump and members of Congress point fingers, blaming opposing political parties for a potential government shutdown, the public has spoken. A Washington Post/ABC poll finds that a most Americans would blame Republicans and the president should Congress fail to reach an agreement to keep the government funded by midnight on Friday.

Forty-eight percent of those polled in the survey of more than 1,000 people said they would hold the GOP responsible, while 28 percent said they would blame Democrats. Eighteen percent said both parties would be equally to blame.

Democrats and Trump critics including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) have argued this week that with the Republicans in control of both houses of Congress and the White House, they are responsible for keeping the government running.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...-shutdown-mess

Yes I am aware the Warren segment wants to blame the GOP since they narrowly control congress and the WH. That's why the dems did this. Shut the govt down, then blame the majority party. Make it a 2018 talking point for them.

Once again the dims are putting politics and illegals above American citizens. They are pathetic.