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    One more in a long list of illegal actions committed against this nation by Barrack Obama. How many acts of treason does it take for this man to be labeled as a traitor to this nation and prosecuted accordingly?

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    FISA is an abomination and unconstitutional anyway. everyone, past or present, involved with it should be drawn, quartered, and burned at the stake.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Fuck Section 702. Fuck the Deep State abuses thereof also.

    the idiots in Congress just gave another blank check for domestic surveillance -
    without ANY DEBATE on reforms. Congress is a joke

    House Votes To Reauthorize FISA Section 702 Mass Surveillance Program
    https://www.cato.org/blog/house-vote...llance-program
    Two months of drama in the House of Representatives over the soon-to-expire FISA Section 702 mass surveillance program came to an end this morning, with a bipartisan group of House members first defeating a FISA reform amendment (USA RIGHTS Act) offered by Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI), then passing the GOP House leadership bill. The key votes in support of the GOP House leadership effort came from Democrats, including Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and House Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Adam Schiff (D-CA).

    The progressive activist group Demand Progress, which spearheaded the campaign on the political left for meaningful surveillance reforms, issued a blistering statement after the vote, the key paragraph of which follows:

    Demand Progress has opposed the FISA Amendments Reauthorization Act from the start and has instead urged the House to pass strong reform legislation, like the USA RIGHTS Act, which was offered as an amendment but defeated 183-233, despite strong support from members of both parties. 55 Democrats voted against the amendment, where a swing of 26 votes would have meant its adoption and the protection of Americans’ privacy. The USA RIGHTS amendment would have enacted meaningful reforms to Section 702, which are imperative given the government’s historical abuse of surveillance authorities and the danger posed by future abuses.

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    Congrats on one of the dumbest things I've seen posted here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Congrats on one of the dumbest things I've seen posted here.
    it would be nice if you could express your ideas and not just your anger.

    Do you get Section 702? Please read the summary page of this PDF from DEMAND PROGRESS-
    this is not some RW mania
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/demandprogr...Violations.pdf





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    In the five years since Congress last reauthorized Section 702, we have learned a great deal about the operation of the Section 702 program and the risks it poses to privacy and civil liberties.
    In response, privacy advocates have called for many reforms to Section 702, focusing in particular on two key measures that are needed to safeguard individual rights:
    prohibiting the currently suspended practice of “about” collection and
    ending the government’s practice of conducting warrantless searches through data collected under Section 702
    to seek information about Americans.

    Proponents of the Intelligence Committee’s bill contend that it presents a compromise approach to addressing both of these privacy risks, and that recent modifications to the bill address the concerns of privacy advocates.
    In reality, the bill includes no meaningful reform on either issue – or any other real reforms to Section 702. Instead, the Intelligence Committee’s bill would codify these two practices and risk expanding the government’s surveillance authority.

    “Backdoor searches,” or what the government refers to as “U.S. person queries,” occur when, without any judicial process or oversight, the government searches through its collected Section 702 data for information about a specific American – someone who could not be targeted for surveillance in the first place without an individualized warrant – and accesses the contents and metadata associated with any responsive communications.
    The NSA and CIA have reported that they conduct these searches tens of thousands of times a year, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), which conducts these searches as a matter of routine, including for criminal investigations, does not even count how often they are performed.
    https://www.justsecurity.org/50801/h...eeps-clothing/

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    it would be nice if you could express your ideas and not just your anger.

    Do you get Section 702? Please read the summary page of this PDF from DEMAND PROGRESS-
    this is not some RW mania
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/demandprogr...Violations.pdf

    Dragon is right...its a dumb post.....the FISA law isn't the problem, the implementation and abuse of the law is.....the deep state planted and nurtured by Obama has taken root and the swamp must be drained to kill the scum in the swamp.....
    the liberal judges, criminals in the FBI and DOJ must be removed and the law will return to its primary purpose of fighting foreign and domestic terrorists....


    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Dragon is right...its a dumb post.....the FISA law isn't the problem, the implementation and abuse of the law is.....the deep state planted and nurtured by Obama has taken root and the swamp must be drained to kill the scum in the swamp.....
    the liberal judges, criminals in the FBI and DOJ must be removed and the law will return to its primary purpose of fighting foreign and domestic terrorists....
    You want to remove the liberal judges as well as the criminals in the FBI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.kennedy View Post


    One more in a long list of illegal actions committed against this nation by Barrack Obama. How many acts of treason does it take for this man to be labeled as a traitor to this nation and prosecuted accordingly?

    When you use oan you just open yourself up to being made fun of

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Dragon is right...its a dumb post.....the FISA law isn't the problem, the implementation and abuse of the law is.....the deep state planted and nurtured by Obama has taken root and the swamp must be drained to kill the scum in the swamp.....
    the liberal judges, criminals in the FBI and DOJ must be removed and the law will return to its primary purpose of fighting foreign and domestic terrorists....


    You need to ask a moderator to move this to the conspiracy section

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    You want to remove the liberal judges as well as the criminals in the FBI?
    The whole deep state has to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Dragon is right...its a dumb post.....the FISA law isn't the problem, the implementation and abuse of the law is.....the deep state planted and nurtured by Obama has taken root and the swamp must be drained to kill the scum in the swamp.....
    the liberal judges, criminals in the FBI and DOJ must be removed and the law will return to its primary purpose of fighting foreign and domestic terrorists....
    uncle sam appreciates your sheepleness, thanks
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOVA View Post
    Dragon is right...its a dumb post.....the FISA law isn't the problem, the implementation and abuse of the law is.....the deep state planted and nurtured by Obama has taken root and the swamp must be drained to kill the scum in the swamp.....
    the liberal judges, criminals in the FBI and DOJ must be removed and the law will return to its primary purpose of fighting foreign and domestic terrorists....


    Since Congress will not address the abuses ( 702 was just re-authorized) the law is the problem..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Congrats on one of the dumbest things I've seen posted here.
    Troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    The whole deep state has to go.
    What will you use for head-filling then?

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