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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    It could easily have been done all at the same time, Eagle, which the congressional leadership of both the Republicans and Democrats wanted to do. Donald Trump told them to get together and figure out a bill that they could both live with...AND HE WOULD SIGN IT.

    They did...they got together and put a proposal together and took it to him. But the nutcases on the far right had gotten to him first. So even though they had a proposal that could easily have passed on a bi-partisan vote...

    ...Trump said "NO."

    Trump owns this mess...and the mess is not a choice between "funding the government" and "working on DACA." The "mess" is that the Republican Party in the best of times doesn't know how to govern...and these are not "the best of times" for the GOP!

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    The bill died in the Senate via filibuster. Trump never had the opportunity to sign it. Please try to get your facts straight. This is Schumer's shutdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    People are so stupid, if the believe the government will shut down.. The government never shuts down. All essential services continue to function, oh you may not be able to go to a national park because it's closed but essential services such as TSA, customs, ICE, FBI, CDC etc. continue.
    And why? If the govt shuts down, we ought to shut all of them down. No flying, No tsa, no FBI. That will make the american people IRATE and maybe the morons in washington will do their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Dezman View Post
    The Democrats aren't doing themselves any good,putting DACA before citizens.
    And the spinmeisters rightly have their work cut out for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    as I recall, Trump had told them it would be a no before they even started talking......no wall, no security = no DACA.......the only nutcases were Schumer and Gra-hey-am....
    Trump told them he would sign WHATEVER THEY PUT TOGETHER. He said he would sign anything that the two parties could work out. But, then he caved.

    He has no spine.

    My guess: He will get the majority of the blame for this shut down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Schumer shutdown..there it is..rolls right off the tongue
    Exactly. Simple lies is what works with you morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Trump told them he would sign WHATEVER THEY PUT TOGETHER. He said he would sign anything that the two parties could work out. But, then he caved.

    He has no spine.

    My guess: He will get the majority of the blame for this shut down.
    They didn't put anything together. Do you even understand how the process works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    You are completely wrong. Trump and GOP has said they want DACA and are willing to give it. But dems still refuse to compromise. They want to make this a 2018 campaign issue. They feel like a compromise will only help Trump.

    So what did Schumer and the dems to instead? Kick and scream and introduce joke bills, until they shut the govt down. Its completely pathetic.
    What is "pathetic, Irish, is that there are still intelligent people unwilling to see the mess this incompetent narcissist is causing for America.

    The Republican Party has not shown any ability to actually govern the national government in a very long time. They make an outstanding loyal opposition...keeping liberal excesses in check. They should be the minority party. But...they control both houses of congress, the White House, a vast majority of the governorships, and a vast majority of state houses. They hardly know how or why to come in out of the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    They didn't put anything together. Do you even understand how the process works?
    Yes, I do. Do you?

    They brought a proposition to Trump...a bipartisan proposition...and because the nutcases on the far right had gotten to him, he reneged on his promise to support it.

    He is a loser. I know...I know...it is a hard thing to come to grips with that for someone who thinks the Dems and liberals are crap.

    BUT HE IS A LOSER.

    This is not a Schumer Shutdown...it is a Trump Shutdown.

    You'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    It could easily have been done all at the same time, Eagle, which the congressional leadership of both the Republicans and Democrats wanted to do. Donald Trump told them to get together and figure out a bill that they could both live with...AND HE WOULD SIGN IT.

    They did...they got together and put a proposal together and took it to him. But the nutcases on the far right had gotten to him first. So even though they had a proposal that could easily have passed on a bi-partisan vote...

    ...Trump said "NO."

    Trump owns this mess...and the mess is not a choice between "funding the government" and "working on DACA." The "mess" is that the Republican Party in the best of times doesn't know how to govern...and these are not "the best of times" for the GOP!

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    Why should an immigration bill be put in as part of a spending bill? I'll tell you why the Democrats are playing politics plain and simple. If Trump signed it they win if he rejected it they will blame him and the Republicans for shutting down the government. No sport The nation comes first then immigration. This crap is what has gotten the Democrats in the hot water they are in.

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    "Shrump shutdown" is trending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    Why should an immigration bill be put in as part of a spending bill? I'll tell you why the Democrats are playing politics plain and simple. If Trump signed it they win if he rejected it they will blame him and the Republicans for shutting down the government. No sport The nation comes first then immigration. This crap is what has gotten the Democrats in the hot water they are in.
    Okay...continue to think it is the Democrats who are in hot water.

    I'm not a Democrat...but I love it.

    This is not a Schumer Shutdown...it is a Trump Shutdown...part of a long list of Trump screw-ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    If you are referring to the Trump shutdown...I doubt the Democrats CAN stop it. He's got 3 more years to further foul our nation.
    Hussein had EIGHT years, and he did a much shittier job than Trump has been doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye View Post
    Why should an immigration bill be put in as part of a spending bill? I'll tell you why the Democrats are playing politics plain and simple. If Trump signed it they win if he rejected it they will blame him and the Republicans for shutting down the government. No sport The nation comes first then immigration. This crap is what has gotten the Democrats in the hot water they are in.
    They all play politics, the Democrats played stupid politicals in this case!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    Okay...continue to think it is the Democrats who are in hot water.

    I'm not a Democrat...but I love it.

    This is not a Schumer Shutdown...it is a Trump Shutdown...part of a long list of Trump screw-ups.
    Nice. ANOTHER "non-democrat" who communicates just like a democrat. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirthinksalot View Post
    The bill died in the Senate via filibuster. Trump never had the opportunity to sign it. Please try to get your facts straight. This is Schumer's shutdown.
    Incorrect
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