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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Just the facts:

    trump's Obama envy was at its peak, so he ended DACA

    Republicans spent the entirety of '17 refusing to allow Democrats...and most Republicans...into back door meetings in a failed attempt to take healthcare away from millions of Americans.

    Republicans refused to allow Democrats...and most Republicans...into back door meetings when they crafted the toxic tax giveaway to corporations.


    Now that Republicans can no longer ram through legislation via reconciliation, they must come up with ways to compromise with Democrats.


    This is trump's shutdown. All he had to do is take a pen, and undo his Executive action against DACA. Or, extend the deadline by several months.

    But he's pandering to the Alt. Right minority in Congress, which is the same size as his base.


    trump shutdown. No other way to spin this. Now matter how many Russians take to Twitter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Totally lol.

    The shutdown sucks but it’s good in at least one way: it’s brings the DACA issue to the forefront and forces democrats to explain why they put the interests of non-citizens [who aren’t even here legally] ahead of citizens—military citizens, in particular.

    Why is DACA so bloody important to them?

    For Trump it’s easy: he campaigned on America First.
    Asked/answered.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Just the facts:

    trump's Obama envy was at its peak, so he ended DACA

    Republicans spent the entirety of '17 refusing to allow Democrats...and most Republicans...into back door meetings in a failed attempt to take healthcare away from millions of Americans.

    Republicans refused to allow Democrats...and most Republicans...into back door meetings when they crafted the toxic tax giveaway to corporations.


    Now that Republicans can no longer ram through legislation via reconciliation, they must come up with ways to compromise with Democrats.


    This is trump's shutdown. All he had to do is take a pen, and undo his Executive action against DACA. Or, extend the deadline by several months.

    But he's pandering to the Alt. Right minority in Congress, which is the same size as his base.


    trump shutdown. No other way to spin this. Now matter how many Russians take to Twitter.
    So you wanted Trump to act as unconstitutionally as Obama did? DACA was unconstitutional. End of story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtue Signaler View Post
    Has any JPP member died from the shut down yet?


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    I had to bring the kerosene heater in the house this morning, because the flue on my wood burner needs to be swept. I blame the shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is accusing President Donald Trump of reneging on a deal he thought they had neared on immigration and spending.

    The New York Democrat said on the Senate floor that after a White House meeting Friday with Trump, he thought “in my heart” that senators could complete an agreement by evening. He says he “reluctantly” offered concessions on Trump’s long-sought border wall with Mexico in exchange for strong protections for young immigrants.

    Schumer says Trump didn’t try selling the accord to congressional Republican leaders, who wouldn’t accept it. Schumer says Trump “backed off at the first sign of pressure.”

    Schumer says of Trump: “It’s almost as if you were rooting for a shutdown. Well, now we’ll have one.”

    https://apnews.com/9cd8d25dceed4191a...&utm_medium=AP
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    Democrats shut down the government over DACA. That’s the story and that’s the headline—-or should be.

    Amusingly, the Twitter headline for this AP link reads:

    The Latest: Senate Democrats appear to have derailed a Republican bill aimed at preventing a federal shutdown. [AP on Twitter]

    Note the gratuitous word smithing in the above headline. Why can’t AP just say ‘Democrats shut down the government over DACA’? That’s what happened and it’s more concise.

    But when you click on the Twitter link it takes you to another headline which reads: “Schumer says Trump backed off deal”.

    And here I thought the media might actually blame democrats for a government shutdown, finally. Well they did at first, but they couldn’t follow through with it lol.
    Hmmm.

    Who rescinded DACA so that it actually became an issue? Hint: He doesn't really weigh only 239 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Chucky cares more for illegals than citizens. They've got till March to deal with DACA. He's idiotic.

    And, before the libs here get their boxers in a bunch over not understanding who the shutdown affects..........
    A shutdown only affects funds annually appropriated by Congress, not funding that is sustained long-term. The Social Security trust fund is paid for through a combination of taxes and long-term investments. Other core functions like disability claims or appeals over benefits would continue to function.
    The idiots have had since September to do something about it. Tough shit, pally boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    The problem is, Trump, no matter what he does, will be blamed. The Dems and media hatred is astounding.
    Trump's quote from the 2013 shut down:

    “Well, if you say who gets fired it always has to be the top,” Trump said. “I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader. And he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”

    Oops

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Correct. Same difference. Because this is the only vote that requires 60 votes. Why did 4 Republicans vote no?
    I have no idea, but their 4 votes wouldn't have been enough to overcome the filibuster either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The AP accidentally let the fact out of the bag in their initial Twitter headline:

    “Senate Democrats appear to have derailed a Republican bill aimed at preventing a federal shutdown.”

    Why did Democrats derail the bill aimed at preventing a shutdown? Why do democrats put the interest of illegal aliens ahead of citizens?

    Schumer’s Shutdown.
    Not an issue without Trump rescinding DACA last September.
    Not an issue with the Republicans getting their shit together since then.

    Trump's spitefulness towards Obama is the root cause.

    Own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    ROFL.
    DACA is unconstitutional..it's the executive creating a protected class - that's a Congressional function/
    Trump follows the Constitution
    lol

    Keep telling yourself that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    lol

    Keep telling yourself that.
    what you moron.

    How can you use "prosecutorial discretion" for 800k people? Obama created a protected class

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norman Dezman View Post
    At this point the Democrats should let the Republicans dig there own 2018 grave.Now a bright light shines on the Democrats, giving the Republicans the talking point that the government was closed over illegal immigrants, over American citizens. Trump supporters will eat it up.
    Trump supporters will eat up anything the President claims, the American people don't, with them he has hit the point of diminishing returns, it's getting old

    The Democrats may lose some points with the immigrant line, but ultimately Americans will blame the " big deal maker" who is exposed not as the deal maker but actually one who gums up the works

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Trump supporters will eat up anything the President claims, the American people don't, with them he has hit the point of diminishing returns, it's getting old

    The Democrats may lose some points with the immigrant line, but ultimately Americans will blame the " big deal maker" who is exposed not as the deal maker but actually one who gums up the works
    Absolutely.

    He'd have done better ghost writing, "THE ART OF SCREWING UP A DEAL!"

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    This is a failure of leadership from Day 1.

    Trump's Presidency has made no effort at all to be bipartisan or involve the opposition party the entire year. He has not cultivated any relationship there, or trust.

    This shutdown is on Trump. 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    I had to bring the kerosene heater in the house this morning, because the flue on my wood burner needs to be swept. I blame the shut down.
    I had to take the garbage out this morning and run it to the transfer station. I blame Obama.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    This is a failure of leadership from Day 1.

    Trump's Presidency has made no effort at all to be bipartisan or involve the opposition party the entire year. He has not cultivated any relationship there, or trust.

    This shutdown is on Trump. 100%.
    Democrats derailed the republican effort to avoid a shutdown. Just like AP reported, before their re-write lol
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