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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Dems seem to be having a hard time focusing on the CR bill before them. Evidently they care more about illegal aliens than U.S. citizens being furloughed by their obstruction. The news says negotiations will continue through the weekend. Chucky's crew has their U.S. hostages to think of now.


    Back in 2013............................

    Four years ago, Republican lawmakers leveraged the threat of a government shutdown to try and win a fight over health care. Republicans said they would not vote for a spending bill (or a debt-limit increase) unless it delayed or defunded Obamacare, something Barack Obama obviously would block. The government wound up shutting down for two weeks in October before the issue was resolved, and at the time, Democratic lawmakers excoriated the GOP. Nancy Pelosi called the shutdown gambit “an unthinkable tactic,” and labeled those pushing for it “legislative arsonists.” Chuck Schumer vowed not to use it: “No matter how strongly one feels about an issue, you shouldn’t hold millions of people hostage . . . That’s wrong and we can’t give into that,” he told the New York Observer. “We could say, ‘we’re shutting down the government, we’re not going to raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.’ It would be governmental chaos,” Schumer said a week later.
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    Back in 2013, Trump said any shutdown is the fault of the President.

    “Well, if you say who gets fired it always has to be the top,” Trump said. “I mean, problems start from the top and they have to get solved from the top and the president’s the leader. And he’s got to get everybody in a room and he’s got to lead.”

    Any this punk couldn't even make a statement last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Nobody cares.
    You sure are one strange motherfucker, is Cawacko the only sane one in California?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Dems seem to be having a hard time focusing on the CR bill before them. Evidently they care more about illegal aliens than U.S. citizens being furloughed by their obstruction. The news says negotiations will continue through the weekend. Chucky's crew has their U.S. hostages to think of now.


    Back in 2013............................

    Four years ago, Republican lawmakers leveraged the threat of a government shutdown to try and win a fight over health care. Republicans said they would not vote for a spending bill (or a debt-limit increase) unless it delayed or defunded Obamacare, something Barack Obama obviously would block. The government wound up shutting down for two weeks in October before the issue was resolved, and at the time, Democratic lawmakers excoriated the GOP. Nancy Pelosi called the shutdown gambit “an unthinkable tactic,” and labeled those pushing for it “legislative arsonists.” Chuck Schumer vowed not to use it: “No matter how strongly one feels about an issue, you shouldn’t hold millions of people hostage . . . That’s wrong and we can’t give into that,” he told the New York Observer. “We could say, ‘we’re shutting down the government, we’re not going to raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.’ It would be governmental chaos,” Schumer said a week later.
    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...hey-now-use-it
    Back in 2013...

    "A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak" - Donald Trump, 2013
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The irony is that it really isn't the GOP, Graham/Durbin came up with a solution, the same "act of love" the President approved but later shot down in his "shitholes" conference. McConnell never had a clear view of what the President would sign, he never had a bill he could even introduce for a vote

    As the man implied himself back in 2013, the fish stinks from the head down
    President Cheeto said it himself back in 2013 - "A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak" Donald Trump, 2013
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    President Cheeto said it himself back in 2013 - "A shutdown falls on the President's lack of leadership. He can't even control his party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the President is weak" Donald Trump, 2013
    Well you claim that Trump lies constantly, so why believe him now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Point, this is sort of justice for having done away with DACA.
    So you believe the government should be shut down over illegal aliens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    So you believe the government should be shut down over illegal aliens?
    Apparently, so when did lawyers have any scruples?

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    Trump kept a relatively low profile over the weekend, suppressing his instincts to place himself squarely in the center of the action even as he remained glued to the television

    WaPo

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2ad7569f2153

    “Miller has come to be widely viewed — unfairly, White House officials argue — as something of a puppeteer, helping to shape and scuttle deals for a president who doesn’t understand — or care to understand — the details.
    -- Trump’s own aides have privately diagnosed the president with “defiance disorder” to describe his apparent compulsion to do whatever it is his advisers are most strongly urging against, forcing them to clean up the chaos he creates.
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    Schumer Shutdown day 3, such a shame.

    Schumers rallying cry "ILLEGALS FIRST" MIGA

    Thanks Chuck, Well remember that
    This just In::: Trump indicted for living in liberals heads and not paying RENT

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post


    "Problems start from the top and have to get solved from the top, the President is the leader, the President has to lead" - D. Trump

    Got to love irony, "Fox and Friends," do you think they'll run that video on their next show?
    The Branches of Government who have the MAJORITY and AUTHORITY and the VOTES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    So you believe the government should be shut down over illegal aliens?
    No. You believe the governemnt should shut down over Republican recalcitrace regarding Dreamers you support jello spined Potus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    So you believe the government should be shut down over illegal aliens?
    Yes, I think The Government should be Shut Down for America Lying to People who have more than meet The Republicans and Drumpfs Merit Test to be worthy as Citizens!

    Hell ... Drumpf own Children don't have The Education and Experience that your typical Dreamer has, some of them are even Serving in the Military. Donald Bone Spurs doesn't even have Hair on his Little Balls to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    The numbers for a DACA fix are more positive than for Trump’s proposed border wall: Only 27 percent of voters say it would be worth shutting down the government to secure funding to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, while a 59 percent majority say it wouldn’t be worth it.

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