Guns make for a more civilized society

[ThatOwlWoman]

That scares me that you don’t have to show competence with your weapon.

Nope, you don't.

[SmarterthanYou]

From the massive pussy with zero comprehension of the 2nd?

This guy is as big a pussy as you, bitch. Think he has the balls to pack his little peashooter into the courthouse? All delusional puffery.

considering the FACT that your only inclination of what the 2nd truly means is pure delusional fantasy, your opinion means jack fucking shit, cop sucker

[SmarterthanYou]

No, you don't have to even be sighted.

I own several guns, including two shotguns, a .22 rifle, a .357 revolver, and 4 non-revolver handguns which I've never fired. I used to have a .308 as well but gave it away because I don't hunt. These guns all belonged to my late husband. He had a concealed carry permit. At that time you actually had to take a class and be able to hit a target 7 yards away. I inherited them all. I'd sell them today if I knew someone sane would buy them.

if you don't know the laws, then don't try to tell others what they are. thanks.

[Cypress]

I have a baseball bat for home self-defense. Does that make me a bad person?
You would be surprised how effective a good, solid piece of wood is for self defense.

Getting into a gun battle in a dark house seems like a pretty good way to risk shooting someone innocent, a family member, a pet, putting a hole through the wall and hitting the neighbors house, etc.

I don't keep a gun in my house for self-defense, for the same reason I don't take a parachute with me when in a high rise office building, in case the fire exits get blocked. Statistically the cost-risk-benefit just does not cut if for me.

[SmarterthanYou]

I’ve never applied for a gun permit, what are the criteria to obtain one? Do you have to demonstrate you can hit a target?

Thanks

it depends on the state you live in and what kind of carrying you want to do.......open or concealed. you're in TX now, right?

[Phantasmal]

it depends on the state you live in and what kind of carrying you want to do.......open or concealed. you're in TX now, right?

Correct

[SmarterthanYou]

Most gun owners *are* law-abiding ppl. The problem is most of them do not use trigger guards, nor keep their guns in a gun safe, or otherwise secured.

If you want everyone to have a gun, then why not some sensible requirements, like we do with cars?
1. All guns must be purchased from a licensed dealer.
2. Background checks, no exceptions, no excuses.
3. Mandatory trigger guards.
4. Mandatory gun safe.
5. Liability insurance in case one of your guys is lost, stolen, or used in a suicide or a crime or an accident resulting in injury/death.
6. Mandatory gun handling and safety training at owner's expense, renewable every other year.
7. Database with all guns and owners that only law enforcement can access.

I'm sure you can think of others.

I've got to head off to class in a few minutes; looking forward to continuing this civil discussion. Hopefully the crazies won't show up and ruin it.

apply all of those requirements to government first, see how it works. after 10 years, if there's success, maybe we can talk.

[TrippyHippy]

Most gun owners *are* law-abiding ppl. The problem is most of them do not use trigger guards, nor keep their guns in a gun safe, or otherwise secured.

If you want everyone to have a gun, then why not some sensible requirements, like we do with cars?
1. All guns must be purchased from a licensed dealer.
2. Background checks, no exceptions, no excuses. So long as nonviolent offenses (even felonies) or acts (like getting a medical marijuana card for example), do not prevent one from purchasing a gun
3. Mandatory trigger guards.
4. Mandatory gun safe.
5. Liability insurance in case one of your guys is lost, stolen, or used in a suicide or a crime or an accident resulting in injury/death.
6. Mandatory gun handling and safety training at owner's expense, renewable every other year.
7. Database with all guns and owners that only law enforcement can access.

I'm sure you can think of others.

I've got to head off to class in a few minutes; looking forward to continuing this civil discussion. Hopefully the crazies won't show up and ruin it.

I actually agree with all of that, except what I wrote in red. I do believe in common-sense gun regulation...I guess I should have prefaced my OP with that. I just don't support ridiculous regulations, outright gun bans/confiscation, and such.

[SmarterthanYou]

Correct

to carry a handgun at all, in TX, you have to take a class from a certified NRA instructor. the class is usually 8 hours where it discusses some of the laws about carrying, how, where, and dealing with law enforcement. There is a range requirement where you have to score above a certain target. Then you get fingerprinted and background checked by the state. If you pass those requirements, then you can be issued a license to carry which covers open or concealed.

[countryboy]

Most gun owners *are* law-abiding ppl. The problem is most of them do not use trigger guards, nor keep their guns in a gun safe, or otherwise secured.

If you want everyone to have a gun, then why not some sensible requirements, like we do with cars?
1. All guns must be purchased from a licensed dealer.
2. Background checks, no exceptions, no excuses.
3. Mandatory trigger guards.
4. Mandatory gun safe.
5. Liability insurance in case one of your guys is lost, stolen, or used in a suicide or a crime or an accident resulting in injury/death.
6. Mandatory gun handling and safety training at owner's expense, renewable every other year.
7. Database with all guns and owners that only law enforcement can access.

I'm sure you can think of others.

I've got to head off to class in a few minutes; looking forward to continuing this civil discussion. Hopefully the crazies won't show up and ruin it.

What good is a gun for self defense if it has a trigger guard on it?

[Phantasmal]

to carry a handgun at all, in TX, you have to take a class from a certified NRA instructor. the class is usually 8 hours where it discusses some of the laws about carrying, how, where, and dealing with law enforcement. There is a range requirement where you have to score above a certain target. Then you get fingerprinted and background checked by the state. If you pass those requirements, then you can be issued a license to carry which covers open or concealed.

Thanks, appreciated.

[domer76]

considering the FACT that your only inclination of what the 2nd truly means is pure delusional fantasy, your opinion means jack fucking shit, cop sucker

The FACT is, dumbfuck, that you DON’T have the right to pack anything, any time, anywhere.

That you THINK you do merely illustrates your ignorance of the 2nd.

That you THINK you do, but are too much the coward to prove it, illustrates your pussification.

Ignorant AND a pussy. Bad combo, Rambutt.

[SmarterthanYou]

Most gun owners *are* law-abiding ppl. The problem is most of them do not use trigger guards, nor keep their guns in a gun safe, or otherwise secured.

If you want everyone to have a gun, then why not some sensible requirements, like we do with cars?
1. All guns must be purchased from a licensed dealer.
2. Background checks, no exceptions, no excuses.
3. Mandatory trigger guards.
4. Mandatory gun safe.
5. Liability insurance in case one of your guys is lost, stolen, or used in a suicide or a crime or an accident resulting in injury/death.
6. Mandatory gun handling and safety training at owner's expense, renewable every other year.
7. Database with all guns and owners that only law enforcement can access.

this is pretty much the equivalent of 'you can own a gun, you just can't use it'.

[SmarterthanYou]

The FACT is, dumbfuck, that you DON’T have the right to pack anything, any time, anywhere.

That you THINK you do merely illustrates your ignorance of the 2nd.

That you THINK you do, but are too much the coward to prove it, illustrates your pussification.

Ignorant AND a pussy. Bad combo, Rambutt.

fuck off, freedom hating cop sucking statist. you're a moron of the highest caliber, even above evince and CFM

[domer76]

fuck off, freedom hating cop sucking statist. you're a moron of the highest caliber, even above evince and CFM

Sad, ignorant vagina.