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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Your credibility takes a hit when you try to minimize Trump's obsessive dishonesty w/ "most people," or make it sound like a common thing.

    Literally, I have never seen anyone on the public stage or in private life lie like Trump does. It is an art form w/ him. He lies when he doesn't need to; he lies for no reason. He almost seems to prefer lying.

    He is easily the most dishonest man to ever occupy the oval office. Easily.
    you never saw Dick Nixon lie, or LBJ - and their lying about "peace with honor" got people killed.

    also what is a lie? WaPo uses ANY shift in position as a "lie".

    When you start seeing diametrically opposed statements / Tweets by Trump in a short timeline
    let me know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    You guys are completely spinning to try to cover yourselves. I'd bet pretty good money that you have called quite a few people crazy or unstable over the years, without professional corroborating diagnosis. And I'd also bet that you did in many cases where it was rhetoric and not necessarily "actions" exclusively. And I'd further bet that at those times, you didn't say anything about it being a "guess."
    And you have yet to answer my questions. If you missed them, click on the back button.

    To whatever extent I’ve labeled someone unstable it’s just a lay persons guess and not a diagnosis that should be taken seriously. Can we be clear on that much?

    Also, Trump was recently given a clean bill of health by an actual physician and not a partisan quack with an agenda.

    Don’t you think a doctor who actually examined Trump could pick up an ‘mental instability’ and refer him to a shrink? Don’t you think we’d know about it if that happened.

    Or is it all a big conspiracy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    absolutely not. sitting around and saying "he's crazy" in an informal conversation is one thing.
    Issuing a formal statement, or having fake psychiatrists give their "opinion" is quite something else.
    Onceler will never get it and if he does he will never admit it

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you never saw Dick Nixon lie, or LBJ - and their lying about "peace with honor" got people killed.

    also what is a lie? WaPo uses ANY shift in position as a "lie".

    When you start seeing diametrically opposed statements / Tweets by Trump in a short timeline
    let me know
    Are you saying you ha e never seen Trump lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    every time I think you've bottomed out in your stupidity, you prove it wrong.

    The very OP TOPIC addresses this! and yet you chime right in with you blather.
    reading is fundamental -try it some time
    Seriously go fuck yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you never saw Dick Nixon lie, or LBJ - and their lying about "peace with honor" got people killed.

    also what is a lie? WaPo uses ANY shift in position as a "lie".

    When you start seeing diametrically opposed statements / Tweets by Trump in a short timeline
    let me know
    How can you compare Nixon to Trump?

    Nixon lied; most politicians do. Trump is on such a different level. You've watched him closely for close to 2 years now...are you really of the opinion that his is your standard garden-variety, politician-type lying?

    I don't see how someone could really compare him to other politicians on that level. Trump almost personifies dishonesty. I've really never seen its like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Seriously go fuck yourself.
    Another on topic post. Do you take your own advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    The reason I didn't address the point directly has quite a bit to do w/ the fact that another poster who seems obsessed w/ me brought me up immediately on the thread. Should I ask your permission next time before responding when I'm brought up? What's the protocol, Tom - I can ask you first going forward. Just let me know.

    I think Trump is a nut. I don't really care what the media does.
    Trump has a cognitive health check as part of his medical, he passed with flying colours.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...imers-Physical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yaya View Post
    Are you saying you ha e never seen Trump lie?
    of course not. I am saying the systemic lies of Nixon and LBJ whereby they completely ignored intelligence that
    we couldn't bleed N.Vietnam to negotiations are real lies of consequences..

    I wish i could find the WaPo article that showed "3000 lies" or something...that would take a dedicated liar to accomplish that in a year..WaPo took ANY minor shift of position and classified it as a liar

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    of course not. I am saying the systemic lies of Nixon and LBJ whereby they completely ignored intelligence that
    we couldn't bleed N.Vietnam to negotiations are real lies of consequences..

    I wish i could find the WaPo article that showed "3000 lies" or something...that would take a dedicated liar to accomplish that in a year..WaPo took ANY minor shift of position and classified it as a liar
    liar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    liar
    what's that honey chile?
    So Nixon and LBJ weren't lying when they used body counts as a metric to "winning" in Vietnam?

    I think even McNamara warned LBJ that we couldn't substain our losses like the NVA/VC could
    even at a 10:1 ratio

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    what's that honey chile?
    So Nixon and LBJ weren't lying when they used body counts as a metric to "winning" in Vietnam?

    I think even McNamara warned LBJ that we couldn't substain our losses like the NVA/VC could
    even at a 10:1 ratio
    I was referring to the second paragraph doofus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    I was referring to the second paragraph doofus
    do you have access to the WaPo article?
    please post a link..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    You guys are completely spinning to try to cover yourselves. I'd bet pretty good money that you have called quite a few people crazy or unstable over the years, without professional corroborating diagnosis. And I'd also bet that you did in many cases where it was rhetoric and not necessarily "actions" exclusively. And I'd further bet that at those times, you didn't say anything about it being a "guess."
    Of course we have, but we're not licensed professionals with a code of ethics or procedures to follow, they're just opinions.
    Let me ask you a hypothetical question;
    If you fell and your ankle turned purple, swelled up like a balloon and you couldn't walk on it, then went to the emergency room and the Dr. looked at it, said it's just a sprain, take some Tylenol and get some rest and wanted to send you home, would you just go home and not ask for an x-ray to see if it's broken? Would you accept his "diagnosis" without any further examination? Don't you think it's his responsibility to make an evaluation after all the possibilities are examined?
    Just askin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Of course we have, but we're not licensed professionals with a code of ethics or procedures to follow, they're just opinions.
    Let me ask you a hypothetical question;
    If you fell and your ankle turned purple, swelled up like a balloon and you couldn't walk on it, then went to the emergency room and the Dr. looked at it, said it's just a sprain, take some Tylenol and get some rest and wanted to send you home, would you just go home and not ask for an x-ray to see if it's broken? Would you accept his "diagnosis" without any further examination? Don't you think it's his responsibility to make an evaluation after all the possibilities are examined?
    Just askin'
    They have their narrative and they’re sticking to it lol.

    My lay diagnosis of Trump is that he really is a kind of genius—and a world class troll. The ‘stable genius’ bit was a perfect example. I think Trump knew exactly how the media would take it and I’m pretty confident he laughs at them, literally. The talking heads froth at the mouth over it, seemingly oblivious to the fact they are helping Trump to brand himself by going on and on about Trump being ‘a stable genius’.

    Beats anything I’ve ever seen in politics. I think many Never Trumpers secretly wish they would have supported him.
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