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    "The Vatican II council knew what it thought of Islamophobia or irrational hatred of Muslims. It called us all to something better, to an acknowledgement that Jesus and Mary unite people of faith, rather than dividing them and that discrimination against people on the basis of their religion or race is always wrong. The Qur’an also puts Jesus under the sign of peace." -- Dr. Juan Cole

    Vatican Council and Papal Statements on Islam

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    “But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place among whom are the Muslims: these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”

    "The Church has also a high regard for the Muslims. They worship God, who is one, living and subsistent, merciful and almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth (Cf. St. Gregory VII, Letter III, 21 to Anazir [Al-Nasir], King of Mauretania PL, 148.451A.), who has spoken to men. They strive to submit themselves without reserve to the hidden decrees of God, just as Abraham submitted himself to God’s plan, to whose faith Muslims eagerly link their own. Although not acknowledging him as God, they venerate Jesus as a prophet, his Virgin Mother they also honor, and even at times devoutly invoke. Further, they await the day of judgment and the reward of God following the resurrection of the dead. For this reason they highly esteem an upright life and worship God, especially by way of prayer, alms-deeds and fasting.

    “Over the centuries many quarrels and dissensions have arisen between Christians and Muslims. The sacred Council now pleads with all to forget the past, and urges that a sincere effort be made to achieve mutual understanding; for the benefit of all men, let them together preserve and promote peace, liberty, social justice and moral values.”

    “Therefore, the Church reproves, as foreign to the mind of Christ, any discrimination against people or any harassment of them on the basis of their race, color, condition in life or religion. Accordingly, following the footsteps of the holy Apostles Peter and Paul, the sacred Council earnestly begs the Christian faithful to ‘conduct themselves well among the Gentiles’ (1P 2:12) and if possible, as far as depends on them, to be at peace with all men (cf. Rm 12:18), and in that way to be true sons of the Father who is in heaven (cf. Mt 5:45

    http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-tea...s-on-islam.cfm
    https://www.juancole.com/2017/12/mus...ure-about.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    now the right will hate the pope
    Islamophobia is a cottage industry, that some industrious rightwingers have gotten rich on by duping and manipulating their intellectual inferiors in the broader wingnutosphere.

    Vatican II, the Pope, and probably the vast majority of biblical scholars and theologians are capable of recognizing these two religious traditions have much in common, including veneration of Jesus, and worship of the same God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    now the right will hate the pope
    All moral people hate the pope And the Catholic molestation machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Islamophobia is a cottage industry, that some industrious rightwingers have gotten rich on by duping and manipulating their intellectual inferiors in the broader wingnutosphere.

    Vatican II, the Pope, and probably the vast majority of biblical scholars and theologians are capable of recognizing these two religious traditions have much in common, including veneration of Jesus, and worship of the same God.
    So you don't really believe in multiculturalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    All moral people hate the pope And the Catholic molestation machine.
    You are part of the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    You are part of the problem.
    I am the solution, mofo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Islamophobia is a cottage industry, that some industrious rightwingers have gotten rich on by duping and manipulating their intellectual inferiors in the broader wingnutosphere.

    Vatican II, the Pope, and probably the vast majority of biblical scholars and theologians are capable of recognizing these two religious traditions have much in common, including veneration of Jesus, and worship of the same God.
    Yep the insta-pundits popped out of the woodwork after 911... Fox has sponsored some real idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    I am the solution, mofo.
    Nope.. You are very ignorant which is really appalling after 17 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Nope.. You are very ignorant which is really appalling after 17 years.
    No. We all reject your one world religion hokum. Are you ready to enforce your retarded religious interpretations onto others with violence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    No. We all reject your one world religion hokum. Are you ready to enforce your retarded religious interpretations onto others with violence?
    I don't believe in one world religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I don't believe in one world religion.
    Why are you so divisive and hateful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    No. We all reject your one world religion hokum. Are you ready to enforce your retarded religious interpretations onto others with violence?
    So...you reject their blind guesses about the true nature of the REALITY of existence...and want to stick with your blind guess about the true nature of the REALITY of existence.

    Okay...that works for me. It certainly is your right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Apisa View Post
    So...you reject their blind guesses about the true nature of the REALITY of existence...and want to stick with your blind guess about the true nature of the REALITY of existence.

    Okay...that works for me. It certainly is your right.
    Thanks for believing in religious freedom.

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