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    LOVE! Love! Love!

    Christ came to Earth to deliver a simple message, Humans are loved directly and unconditionally by God.

    What a great gift to know that God simply loves us, we are "pre-forgiven" for anything we do and have ever done, what an amazing thing to consider. Everyone is worthy of Gods love and there is NOTHING we can do to extinguish it. We can chose not to believe it, we can chose not to accept it, but turn around and there is is and it is absolute. Can you feel it? I can, at night when I go to sleep I do so with a smile on my face because I know I am loved. You can feel it also, just learn that its true and accept it.

    Nobody have to prove themselves to God, you don't have to work hard, you don't have to have pure thoughts, you don't have to do good deeds, you are simply LOVED. You can be a bum, a Wall street banker, a Muslim or a Buddhist, you are LOVED by God. You can be a murderer or a priest, you are LOVED the same by GOD, and favored on Earth and in Heaven. All humans rejoice this Christmas as we celebrate the message Christ brought to us, the message of LOVE from God for ALL! Take a deep breath, no matter who you are, and feel the warm love wash over you and know there is peace within you here on Earth.
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    I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

    Merry Christmas eve !
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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

    Merry Christmas eve !
    And you are LOVED. You don't have to ask for forgiveness, it is granted before you even thought of the sin.
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    "And you are LOVED. You don't have to ask for forgiveness, it is granted before you even thought of the sin."
    I'm no expert on it.
    But those that presume to be, those that claim to be have told me eligibility for everlasting life in paradise (Heaven) is available only to those that accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.
    I have not.
    I shall not.

    Worry not.
    "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear." Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), U.S. president. Letter, 10 Aug. 1787
    If I am to be banished to perdition for continuing to be a man of principle after life, as I am in life, then I shall continue to take comfort then as now.

    But that's no reason to think ill of Santa on his one special day.

    My thanks to Santa, to Mrs. Claus, to all Santa's elves, and Santa's fabulous team of muscular reindeer for brightening the lives of so many around the globe.

    It'll be a white Christmas here at the tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    I'm no expert on it.
    But those that presume to be, those that claim to be have told me eligibility for everlasting life in paradise (Heaven) is available only to those that accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.
    I have not.
    I shall not.

    Worry not.

    If I am to be banished to perdition for continuing to be a man of principle after life, as I am in life, then I shall continue to take comfort then as now.

    But that's no reason to think ill of Santa on his one special day.

    My thanks to Santa, to Mrs. Claus, to all Santa's elves, and Santa's fabulous team of muscular reindeer for brightening the lives of so many around the globe.

    It'll be a white Christmas here at the tower.

    I don't know about heaven, as a place, but I know you and I are loved. Loved regardless of if we accept it or not, those who accept Jesus as savior or not. Its my belief that we are loved regardless. You can feel it and enjoy it, and you can reject it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    LOVE! Love! Love!

    Christ came to Earth to deliver a simple message, Humans are loved directly and unconditionally by God.

    What a great gift to know that God simply loves us, we are "pre-forgiven" for anything we do and have ever done, what an amazing thing to consider. Everyone is worthy of Gods love and there is NOTHING we can do to extinguish it. We can chose not to believe it, we can chose not to accept it, but turn around and there is is and it is absolute. Can you feel it? I can, at night when I go to sleep I do so with a smile on my face because I know I am loved. You can feel it also, just learn that its true and accept it.

    Nobody have to prove themselves to God, you don't have to work hard, you don't have to have pure thoughts, you don't have to do good deeds, you are simply LOVED. You can be a bum, a Wall street banker, a Muslim or a Buddhist, you are LOVED by God. You can be a murderer or a priest, you are LOVED the same by GOD, and favored on Earth and in Heaven. All humans rejoice this Christmas as we celebrate the message Christ brought to us, the message of LOVE from God for ALL! Take a deep breath, no matter who you are, and feel the warm love wash over you and know there is peace within you here on Earth.
    while I dont share your belief in this being


    I share your sentiment


    all beings are loved


    how that love is manifested makes no differance


    there is love present


    share the love folks


    your very first responsibility is to look at the world as it is


    accept reality


    that means learn to decern fact from fiction


    then love that world as it is


    not as your pain tells you it is


    AS IT REALLY IS


    not as your party tells you it is



    AS IT REALLY IS


    not as your lack of knowledge makes you think it is



    AS IT REALLY IS





    once you accomplish that you will understand the love that is there.


    its amazing


    I wish I cold share it with you

    I wish I could just hand it to you


    I cant


    first you have to see and embrace the truth and all true reality.



    its worth it


    Merry christmas Eve or whatever you call this day in your family.


    what we call it does not change what it is



    feel the love folks

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    while I dont share your belief in this being


    I share your sentiment


    all beings are loved


    how that love is manifested makes no differance


    there is love present


    share the love folks


    your very first responsibility is to look at the world as it is


    accept reality


    that means learn to decern fact from fiction


    then love that world as it is


    not as your pain tells you it is


    AS IT REALLY IS


    not as your party tells you it is



    AS IT REALLY IS


    not as your lack of knowledge makes you think it is



    AS IT REALLY IS





    once you accomplish that you will understand the love that is there.


    its amazing


    I wish I cold share it with you

    I wish I could just hand it to you


    I cant


    first you have to see and embrace the truth and all true reality.



    its worth it


    Merry christmas Eve or whatever you call this day in your family.


    what we call it does not change what it is



    feel the love folks
    If there is no God what are we loved by?
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    while I dont share your belief in this being


    I share your sentiment


    all beings are loved


    how that love is manifested makes no differance


    there is love present


    share the love folks


    your very first responsibility is to look at the world as it is


    accept reality


    that means learn to decern fact from fiction


    then love that world as it is


    not as your pain tells you it is


    AS IT REALLY IS


    not as your party tells you it is



    AS IT REALLY IS


    not as your lack of knowledge makes you think it is



    AS IT REALLY IS





    once you accomplish that you will understand the love that is there.


    its amazing


    I wish I cold share it with you

    I wish I could just hand it to you


    I cant


    first you have to see and embrace the truth and all true reality.



    its worth it


    Merry christmas Eve or whatever you call this day in your family.


    what we call it does not change what it is



    feel the love folks
    Not feeling the love from you evince. Is it love when every other word out of your mouth, is a vulgar insult, or bigoted epithet? Just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If there is no God what are we loved by?
    We are part and parcel of all life on this planet. We are brothers and sisters to all other beings we share this Earth with. The universe is indifferent to our existence. That's okay. We have the capacity to love. When we love something, we cherish and protect it.

    In the end, to love matters more than to be loved... yet we can have both.

    Merry Christmas to you, brother Jarod.

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    " You can feel it and enjoy it, and you can reject it. " J #5
    But though you and countless others present it as a dichotomy, a binary, it never was.

    It's the fabulous luxury of being a conservative skeptic.

    Believers and disbelievers have convictions.

    But we agnostics earn the luxury of merely confessing our own ignorance.


    “Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?” ― Epicurus (341-270BC)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If there is no God what are we loved by?
    god is your word to describe it


    its how you understand this love

    I define that being differently than you do


    you need to see it as a fatherly actual being


    I know its the beauty of the reality that exsists


    its the nature of being and exsisting


    we are beings of love


    without love there is no mankind.


    man in comparison to other creatures is weak and vulnerable in this world


    Imagine mankind in its infancy


    nearly hairless, slow and it take YEARS to make a reproductive adult


    we are vulnerable beings


    the only reason we survived and prospered was the love of each other and our brains.


    I love mankind


    to do that I have to accept the reality of mankinds weaknesses and still find my way to loving mankind.


    love has power


    love lives beyond our short lives


    love carries


    feel that love

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Not feeling the love from you evince. Is it love when every other word out of your mouth, is a vulgar insult, or bigoted epithet? Just sayin'.
    wether you feel that love I send you or nit doesnt mean it doesnt exsist



    I give you truth


    that truth makes you fear


    it destroys the fake world you chose to live in


    It is the greatest act of love to try and free your mind


    words are not vulgar if they help free your mind huh.


    all you have to do to feel my love for you is to join me in honoring FACTS and TRUTH



    Your best freind is the one who tells you the truth when others wont bother


    you embrace racism not me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    We are part and parcel of all life on this planet. We are brothers and sisters to all other beings we share this Earth with. The universe is indifferent to our existence. That's okay. We have the capacity to love. When we love something, we cherish and protect it.

    In the end, to love matters more than to be loved... yet we can have both.

    Merry Christmas to you, brother Jarod.
    And that is God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sear View Post
    But though you and countless others present it as a dichotomy, a binary, it never was.

    It's the fabulous luxury of being a conservative skeptic.

    Believers and disbelievers have convictions.

    But we agnostics earn the luxury of merely confessing our own ignorance.


    “Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god?” ― Epicurus (341-270BC)

    What we perceive as Evil is not such to God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    LOVE! Love! Love!

    Christ came to Earth to deliver a simple message, Humans are loved directly and unconditionally by God.

    What a great gift to know that God simply loves us, we are "pre-forgiven" for anything we do and have ever done, what an amazing thing to consider. Everyone is worthy of Gods love and there is NOTHING we can do to extinguish it. We can chose not to believe it, we can chose not to accept it, but turn around and there is is and it is absolute. Can you feel it? I can, at night when I go to sleep I do so with a smile on my face because I know I am loved. You can feel it also, just learn that its true and accept it.

    Nobody have to prove themselves to God, you don't have to work hard, you don't have to have pure thoughts, you don't have to do good deeds, you are simply LOVED. You can be a bum, a Wall street banker, a Muslim or a Buddhist, you are LOVED by God. You can be a murderer or a priest, you are LOVED the same by GOD, and favored on Earth and in Heaven. All humans rejoice this Christmas as we celebrate the message Christ brought to us, the message of LOVE from God for ALL! Take a deep breath, no matter who you are, and feel the warm love wash over you and know there is peace within you here on Earth.
    Sarcasm from an idiot who wishes to doom himself. A little food for thought before judgement day.




    "Revelation 21:8 ESV / 262 helpful votes
    But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
    Matthew 25:41 ESV / 164 helpful votes
    “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
    Matthew 25:46 ESV / 148 helpful votes
    And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
    Matthew 10:28 ESV / 116 helpful votes
    And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
    Romans 6:23 ESV / 115 helpful votes
    For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
    Romans 2:6-8 ESV / 113 helpful votes
    He will render to each one according to his works: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.
    2 Thessalonians 1:9 ESV / 105 helpful votes
    They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,
    Mark 9:43 ESV / 99 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful
    And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire.
    Revelation 20:15 ESV / 96 helpful votes
    And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
    Jude 1:7 ESV / 79 helpful votes
    Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
    John 3:36 ESV / 74 helpful votes
    Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.
    Luke 16:19-31 ESV / 66 helpful votes
    “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. ...
    Mark 9:48 ESV / 66 helpful votes
    ‘where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.’
    2 Peter 2:4 ESV / 64 helpful votes
    For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment;
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    And come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.
    Matthew 5:22 ESV / 59 helpful votes
    But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
    John 14:6 ESV / 58 helpful votes
    Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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    The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

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