65% conservatives 'proud to be American,' just 37% liberals agree

[Althea]

And what exactly are your guarantees worth outside Hicksville? 'Western values' are liberalism challenged by socialism. What Americans call conservatives' is merely political correctness for racist scumbag, as you know.

Leftovers from the racist ruling class that founded this country. They're trying desperately to cling to their slim majority, as the country evolves into an amalgam of ethnicities. This is the final battle, with an incompetent general at the helm.

[dukkha]

Was he the one telling hysterical lies about Mrs Clinton and some place in Libya, for instance? Racists lie about everything, everywhere, always.

FFSake..not you too!

What LIES about Libya?? Look at her own State Dept memos..

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23898
From: Jake Sullivan [mailtc
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria
Subject: tick tock on libya

this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S'Clinton leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish. let me know what you think. toria, who else might be able to add to this? Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.

[iolo]

FFSake..not you too!

What LIES about Libya?? Look at her own State Dept memos..

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23898
From: Jake Sullivan [mailtc
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria
Subject: tick tock on libya

this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S'Clinton leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish. let me know what you think. toria, who else might be able to add to this? Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.

You should try to read and listen to things other than racist propaganda. I listen to the BBC and read the Times, Guardian and Economist. With the odd look at the Morning Star in case they missed anything I think they cover any serious issues.

[dukkha]

You should try to read and listen to things other than racist propaganda. I listen to the BBC and read the Times, Guardian and Economist. With the odd look at the Morning Star in case they missed anything I think they cover any serious issues.

That is a copy of her own State Dept memo. Did she lie to herself?
My fav is South China Morning Post..Asia gets little coverage over here

[iolo]

That is a copy of her own State Dept memo. Did she lie to herself?
My fav is South China Morning Post..Asia gets little coverage over here

What point are you trying to make? Agree there should be more coverage of Asia though.

[dukkha]

What point are you trying to make? Agree there should be more coverage of Asia though.

Originally Posted by iolo
Was he the one telling hysterical lies about Mrs Clinton and some place in Libya, for instance? Racists lie about everything, everywhere, always.

..

[TTQ64]

Like old Rock n Roll musicians...'I knew him when'. I believe he's still kind at a personal level. He's just lost his mind. The saddest part is that he supports politicians/policies that directly have a negative effect on most aspects of his personal life. In essence, he's become a typical, uneducated Republican.

What makes it sad, is that he really used to be rather intelligent. His forte was research. He ain't the guy I knew.

He's been this all along. Perhaps you just didn't see it which is understandable. He had a lot of people fooled.

[iolo]

That is a copy of her own State Dept memo. Did she lie to herself?
My fav is South China Morning Post..Asia gets little coverage over here

Life is short. If she did wrong she was doubtless dismissed or brought to trial. The reports have somehow been suppressed!

[Althea]

You should try to read and listen to things other than racist propaganda. I listen to the BBC and read the Times, Guardian and Economist. With the odd look at the Morning Star in case they missed anything I think they cover any serious issues.

Notice what he did here. If you click the wikileaks link, it clearly shows that Clinton was tirelessly working with most of the world in order to facilitate a well planned, and well coordinated effort between numerous allies and even enemies.

He redacts anything that doesn't support his delusions, while accenting snippets that make it look like Clinton was concocting some underhanded plot to destroy the entire nation of Libya.

[Althea]

He's been this all along. Perhaps you just didn't see it which is understandable. He had a lot of people fooled.

Again...I remember him from 15 years ago. Once he began to go off the rails, I had to stop addressing his posts. When DCJ went down, I was already here. When he dragged his dog mess here, I had to put him on ignore.

But...I can see how you would hold that opinion of him. Most who 'met' him once he started sharing his Libya delusions, feel the same as you.

[evince]

FFSake..not you too!

What LIES about Libya?? Look at her own State Dept memos..

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23898
From: Jake Sullivan [mailtc
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria
Subject: tick tock on libya

this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S'Clinton leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish. let me know what you think. toria, who else might be able to add to this? Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.

well did your assholes investigate or charge her with something?


NO



its bull shit asshole

taking texts out of context is not going to save your evil assed party




your team in being investigated


the people doing it are republicans


yet you want to pretend they are after your party for what?

[dukkha]

Notice what he did here. If you click the wikileaks link, it clearly shows that Clinton was tirelessly working with most of the world in order to facilitate a well planned, and well coordinated effort between numerous allies and even enemies.

He redacts anything that doesn't support his delusions, while accenting snippets that make it look like Clinton was concocting some underhanded plot to destroy the entire nation of Libya.

nothing "underhanded" you moron why do you make shit up? Your partisan mind is shot !

You can't even understand that HILLARY OWNED our US Libya policy! (and corraling the world - except Russia) behind it) That's exactly what this says

to break it down for your feeble brain:

It's EXPOSURE of her role "tirelessly working" to ( per her state dept)

She was instrumental in securing the authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.

gawd damn you are stupid, dishonest, unable to put things in context as well...

Russian 'operatives" have eaten your mind

[dukkha]

Life is short. If she did wrong she was doubtless dismissed or brought to trial. The reports have somehow been suppressed!

you don't bring people to trall because they run a bad policy..
You are mixing up her supreme role in Libya with the FBI investigation

[dukkha]

so are we all CLEAR.. Hillary owned US policy in Libya??
As I've described it before:


( my words)- "Hillary was chief US advocate and international organizer for the US/NATO policy of humanitarian war
( i.e responsibility to protect- a.k.a. R2P) which collapsed Libya into a terrorist state"

nothing 'delusional' here.. John is just throwing his Hillary Hissey Fit.

[dukkha]

Hillary Clinton and the Syrian Bloodbath
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffr...b_9231190.html
Clinton’s role in Syria has been to help instigate and prolong the Syrian bloodbath, not to bring it to a close.

In 2012, Clinton was the obstacle, not the solution, to a ceasefire being negotiated by UN Special Envoy Kofi Annan. It was US intransigence - Clinton’s intransigence - that led to the failure of Annan’s peace efforts in the spring of 2012, a point well known among diplomats

When the unrest of the Arab Spring broke out in early 2011, the CIA and the anti-Iran front of Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey saw an opportunity to topple Assad quickly and thereby to gain a geopolitical victory. Clinton became the leading proponent of the CIA-led effort at Syrian regime change.

In early 2011, Turkey and Saudi Arabia leveraged local protests against Assad to try to foment conditions for his ouster. By the spring of 2011, the CIA and the US allies were organizing an armed insurrection against the regime. On August 18, 2011, the US Government made public its position: “Assad must go.”