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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Because the Rep was accused by multiple women of sexual assault/misconduct when they were teens and Moore was in his 30's... all starting about a month or so before the election.

    That is the only reason a Dem won the seat in AL.
    I don't think the assault/misconduct issues inspired democrats voters. trump did that for almost 1 year. You can argue that the write in votes, coupled with those who stayed home did indeed sway the election. As such you can say it was one reason a Dem won the seat, but certainly not the only reason.

    Without a massive democrat voting action yesterday, Moore still wins by quite a bit.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    The slut shamer lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    And that will continue. I don't think it matters how good the economy is - I personally hope that it's gangbusters this year. From the day after the election last year, Democrats have been more energized than they've been in many years. Candidate recruitment - in all regions - is ridiculous. The ground game, as we've seen yesterday & in November, is as good as it has been.

    Dems are going to win turnout for the foreseeable future, and that is going to decide a lot of races.
    Bush inspired Dean to create a massive ground game, ushering Obama into the White House by a landslide.

    The travesty from last November has indeed done the same thing. Contrary to Cinton's inaction last year. The Obama coalition refused to vote. They're now seeing the damage that has done to them personally, and to the country in general.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Imp hater says you can't even use this election as a data point. 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    If voters reject an encumbant president in a booming economy—-I’ll have to see that to believe it.

    Moore’s baggage makes extrapolating from this race kind of sketchy, but I know how desperate you are to do it, so go ahead, I’ll watch lol.
    thing1 isn't wrong about 2018, the democrats could very easily win back the house (and have an outsie chance at the senate) the problem is the way he arrives at the conclusion is by falling down the stairs. This has been my criticism of him and other liberals since 2016, they lack the ability to think critically about these things. While democrats may very well do good in 2018, that is more or less independent from last nights results.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    If Moore was such a bad candidate before the accusations and it has nothing to do with the accusations or Trump, then why didn’t they pick Strange?
    it's alabama?


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    How come the requirement for every voter to show an ID didn't stop Jones from winning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    So, what were the other factors? You claim it was McConnel and then claim endorsements don’t matter, which is it?
    certainly the establishment continuing to undermine their own candidate didn't help matters, especially in an election as close as this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Correct. Moore/trump had no effect on all but 22,000 republican voters, who wrote in someone else. We can speculate as to the number of republican voters who simply stayed home. trump had a huge effect on democrat voters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    And that will continue. I don't think it matters how good the economy is - I personally hope that it's gangbusters this year. From the day after the election last year, Democrats have been more energized than they've been in many years. Candidate recruitment - in all regions - is ridiculous. The ground game, as we've seen yesterday & in November, is as good as it has been.

    Dems are going to win turnout for the foreseeable future, and that is going to decide a lot of races.
    again, the data that you want to ignore suggests this is not the case. only 19% of voters voted for jones out of anti-trump sentiment. Conversly 27% of moore voters voted out of pro-trump sentiment, giving trump an overall net effect of +8pts for roy moore in this race. Again, to reiterate, the vast majority of jones voters were NOT voting out of anti trump sentiment. You have no data to back this up. I have actual data, you have your woo woo bullshit and feels. get on my level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    Because the Rep was accused by multiple women of sexual assault/misconduct when they were teens and Moore was in his 30's... all starting about a month or so before the election.

    That is the only reason a Dem won the seat in AL.
    You may be correct. Do you suppose this will become a common electoral trick as a result?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator View Post
    again, the data that you want to ignore suggests this is not the case. only 19% of voters voted for jones out of anti-trump sentiment. Conversly 27% of moore voters voted out of pro-trump sentiment, giving trump an overall net effect of +8pts for roy moore in this race. Again, to reiterate, the vast majority of jones voters were NOT voting out of anti trump sentiment. You have no data to back this up. I have actual data, you have your woo woo bullshit and feels. get on my level.
    You are presented with a categorical variable issue, please apply the GoodmanKruskal fractional variable package to you data regression and report back. Get on my level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I don't think it matters how good the economy is -
    right....because anyone who thinks its about the economy is stupid.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator View Post
    again, the data that you want to ignore suggests this is not the case. only 19% of voters voted for jones out of anti-trump sentiment. Conversly 27% of moore voters voted out of pro-trump sentiment, giving trump an overall net effect of +8pts for roy moore in this race. Again, to reiterate, the vast majority of jones voters were NOT voting out of anti trump sentiment. You have no data to back this up. I have actual data, you have your woo woo bullshit and feels. get on my level.
    You have exit polling. I can set up a poll to achieve any result I want, simply by creating loaded questions.


    Dem. voters will continue to come out in droves, as a direct rebuke of the pussy grabber. You have no evidence to the contrary. I can't get past the WAPO paywall to view the poll, and corresponding data/sampling
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator View Post
    again, the data that you want to ignore suggests this is not the case. only 19% of voters voted for jones out of anti-trump sentiment. Conversly 27% of moore voters voted out of pro-trump sentiment, giving trump an overall net effect of +8pts for roy moore in this race. Again, to reiterate, the vast majority of jones voters were NOT voting out of anti trump sentiment. You have no data to back this up. I have actual data, you have your woo woo bullshit and feels. get on my level.
    You're basing your conclusions solely on exit polls.

    If being on your level means cherrypicking facts and drawing selective conclusions, no thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    You're basing your conclusions solely on exit polls.

    If being on your level means cherrypicking facts and drawing selective conclusions, no thanks.
    Yep. I'd like to see the sampling from his polling. I'm not going to subscribe to WAPO just to view it.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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