Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Putin visits Syria /Turkey & Egypt in sign of closer ties

  1. #1 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default Putin visits Syria /Turkey & Egypt in sign of closer ties

    Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Egypt on Monday, where he signed a deal to advance plans for a nuclear reactor but disappointed his hosts by delaying the resumption of direct flights that were suspended after the 2015 bombing of a Russian passenger plane.

    During Putin’s second visit to Egypt in as many years, he and Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi appeared keen to cement their countries’ ties, which have deepened in recent years as Moscow has expanded its reach across the region.

    “Russia always paid a special attention to expanding friendly and mutually beneficial ties with Egypt, our longtime reliable partner in the Middle East and North Africa,” Putin said.
    El-Sissi said the two countries had “a relationship with a long history,” characterized by “strength and durability.”
    El-Sissi, who has visited Russia twice since taking office in 2014, has signed deals to buy billions of dollars’ worth of Russian weapons, including fighter jets and assault helicopters. Last month, Russia approved a draft agreement with Egypt to allow Russian warplanes to use Egyptian military bases.

    The United States remains Egypt’s main international backer, providing an estimated $1.3 billion in military and economic aid each year.
    US/Egytian ties suffered a blow in 2013, when the Obama administration criticized the military overthrow of Egypt’s first freely elected leader amid mass protests against his rule.
    Relations have improved under President Donald Trump,
    who has also sought better relations with Moscow.

    Neither Putin nor el-Sissi referred to the use of the air bases when they read prepared statements after their talks, a possible indicator of the sensitivity of the issue in Egypt, which has long rejected the basing of foreign forces on its territory.

    With Putin and el-Sissi looking on, officials from both countries signed the deal on the nuclear reactor. Egypt has reached an agreement in principle to borrow $25 billion, or roughly 80 percent of the reactor’s cost, from Russia. The signing of the agreement ends months of wrangling between the two sides over technical and financial details.

    Putin flew to Cairo after a brief and previously unannounced visit to a Russian military air base in Syria. The air base has served as the main foothold for the air campaign Russia has waged since September 2015 in support of Syrian President Bashar Assad.

    Egypt changed sides in the 1970s under the late President Anwar Sadat, who replaced Moscow with Washington as his country’s chief economic and military backer following the signing of a U.S.-sponsored peace treaty with Israel in 1979. Egypt has since become a major recipient of U.S. aid.

    Under el-Sissi, Egypt has been able to maintain close ties with both Russia and the United States.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.621aa62fe3ec

  2. #2 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default Putin pays surprise visit to Syria, where Assad tells him: 'Thanks a million'


    Russian President Vladimir Putin addresses troops at the Hemeimeem air base in Syria on Dec. 11, 2017. (Mikhail Klimentyev / Associated Press )

    http://beta.latimes.com/world/europe...211-story.html
    In his speech at the base on Monday, Putin said Moscow would begin bringing home a "significant part" of its troops, but left room for Russian troops to strike once more if Islamic State tried to return.

    "If terrorists raise their heads again, we will strike at them with such blows as they have never seen," he said.

    Assad was effusive in his praise of Russia's support.

    "Future generations that will read of this war will not differentiate between the Syrian martyr and the Russian martyr," Assad said. "And the sacrifices of the heroes from both sides was a manifestation of the noblest battle in the confrontation of terrorism."
    Assad added that Russian pilots have been "in the air all the time," according to the Russian state news agency Tass.
    "Thanks a million," he added.

    Putin announces Russian troop withdrawal from Syria during visit

    Russia has begun withdrawing some of its troops from Syria, Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Monday.

    President Vladimir Putin ordered the partial withdrawal during an unannounced visit to Syria on Monday.

    Russian support has been crucial in turning the tide of Syria's civil war in favour of government forces, led by president Bashar al-Assad.

    Mr Putin made a similar withdrawal announcement last year, but Russian military operations continued.

    When asked how long it would take for Russia to withdraw its military contingent, Mr Shoigu said that this would "depend on the situation" in Syria.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42307365

  3. #3 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default



    Russia's Putin Visits Turkey as Ties Between Nation's Deepen
    https://www.usnews.com/news/business...ey-ties-deepen
    Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Turkey on Thursday for talks with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan that focused on the situation in Iraq and Syria along with bilateral trade.

    Putin's visit came as Turkey and Russia are working to deepen ties in a turnaround for the two nations, which have backed opposing sides in Syria and nearly came to blows over Turkey's downing of a Russian plane in 2015.

    The two leaders showered one another with praise in statements after their talks in Ankara, hailing a deal to de-escalate fighting in Syria.

    Moscow sides with Syrian President Bashar Assad while Turkey has supported his foes since the start of the Syrian civil war six years ago. But Russia and Turkey, together with Iran, are now working on setting up de-escalation zones in Syria that are credited with having helped reduce the fighting.

    Erdogan said they focused on the specifics of securing a de-escalation zone in Syria's northern province of Idlib on the border with Turkey, emphasizing the shared political will to contribute to the Syrian political settlement.

    Putin, for his part, hailed "our friend, President Erdogan" for helping make the de-escalation deal possible, adding that it would allow to halt fighting and create conditions for the return of refugees to their homes.

  4. #4 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default

    Putin is cleaning our Middle Eastern clock.
    He's working with Sis on strategic and economic ties, and strategic ties with Erdogan.
    Iran of course is happy about all of this.

    One reason Iv'e supported better relations with Russia is to get the US back in the game in the middle east.
    Obama misplayed Egypt,was 100% wrong, about Syria being a "Russian quagmire" -
    and his Egyptian sanctions drove el-Sisi to Russia for weapons and commerce.

    Erdogan is a difficult guy, but Putin finds a way to work with him in Syria nonetheless.

    It would be better to deal with Putin and not try to isolate him.
    Compete with him in the middle east for alliances and business..we still have sway in Egypt
    but we need to do better.

  5. #5 | Top
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    life
    Posts
    52,794
    Thanks
    13,341
    Thanked 22,579 Times in 15,814 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,951 Times in 1,862 Posts

    Default

    Is General Hifter becoming Putin's man in Libya?
    https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ru/...sia-putin.html

    Hifter's reception in Russia was unusually high profile for such a controversial and divisive figure. He was received by the foreign affairs and defense ministers, but most importantly by
    Nikolai Patrushev, the secretary of the Security Council, a key decision-making body close to the president. In other words, the message that Hifter received in Moscow likely came from Vladimir Putin himself.

    Interpreting Russian interests in Libya purely in terms of the profit it could make from arms trade there would be simplistic.
    The diplomatic efforts that Moscow has been making on the Libyan front lately are far-reaching for a power that simply wants to sell its weapons.

    Russia’s political intentions toward Libya are no secret to foreign diplomats in Moscow.
    As a result of a shake-up within the Russian Foreign Ministry late last year,
    Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov, who had spearheaded the Kremlin’s push for diplomatic talks over Syria (the Moscow I and II conferences), was put in charge of the Libya file. By the Kremlin’s rules of the game, this appointment means that it is getting serious about diplomacy in Libya, in which case Russia needs a stable and loyal ally there. Hifter seems an ideal candidate for that role because of his military background that helps him share a language with the officials in the Kremlin, most of whom, like Hifter, received Soviet military training.

    Putin himself finds it convenient to deal with soldiers-turned-politicians. Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi is a case in point: Ever since he visited Moscow in the capacity of Egypt’s defense minister and later became president, the bilateral relationship has returned to levels unseen since the rule of President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Similarly, Russia has an amicable relationship with Jordan, and despite King Abdullah’s Western military training, he and Putin have hit it off.

  6. #6 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    land-locked in Ocala,FL
    Posts
    27,321
    Thanks
    30,862
    Thanked 16,758 Times in 11,557 Posts
    Groans
    1,063
    Groaned 889 Times in 847 Posts

    Default

    I don't know a lot about geopolitics, but one thing I know is that I do not like or trust Erdogan.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



  7. #7 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    41,958
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 22,036 Times in 13,846 Posts
    Groans
    0
    Groaned 3,042 Times in 2,838 Posts

    Default

    The President's "America First" emphasis is being take serious by others, others more than happy to jump into the void, Putin here, China in the Far East, good luck with all those "big deals" when your on the outside looking in

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to archives For This Post:

    Phantasmal (12-12-2017)

  9. #8 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    49,883
    Thanks
    14,463
    Thanked 32,101 Times in 21,165 Posts
    Groans
    6
    Groaned 1,307 Times in 1,235 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I don't know a lot about geopolitics, but one thing I know is that I do not like or trust Erdogan.
    He’s a bigger threat than Assad ever was. Erdogan has visions of the caliphate—-and he’s in NATO.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Darth Omar For This Post:

    Stretch (12-11-2017)

  11. #9 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    49,883
    Thanks
    14,463
    Thanked 32,101 Times in 21,165 Posts
    Groans
    6
    Groaned 1,307 Times in 1,235 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The President's "America First" emphasis is being take serious by others, others more than happy to jump into the void, Putin here, China in the Far East, good luck with all those "big deals" when your on the outside looking in
    Obama laid the void ground work and America First doesn’t equal isolationism. Also, you should at least give Trump some credit for not being a regime change addict.

    You goof balls and your absurd Russian obsession has hamstrung Trump from doing anything constructive with them.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Darth Omar For This Post:

    dukkha (12-11-2017), Stretch (12-11-2017)

  13. #10 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I don't know a lot about geopolitics, but one thing I know is that I do not like or trust Erdogan.
    Erdogan is replacing the founder of Turkey's secularism with a Turkey more inline with Sharia

    Atatürk was a Turkish army officer, revolutionary, and founder of the Republic of Turkey, serving as its first President from 1923 until his death in 1938. Ideologically a secularist and nationalist.
    He .. abolish the Ottoman Empire and proclaimed the foundation of the Turkish Republic in its place.

    As the president of the newly formed Turkish Republic, Atatürk initiated a rigorous program of political, economic, and cultural reforms with the ultimate aim of building a modern and secular nation-state.
    He made primary education free and compulsory, opening thousands of new schools all over the country. Turkish women received equal civil and political rights during Atatürk's presidency ahead of many Western countries.

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to dukkha For This Post:

    Stretch (12-11-2017)

  15. #11 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    The President's "America First" emphasis is being take serious by others, others more than happy to jump into the void, Putin here, China in the Far East, good luck with all those "big deals" when your on the outside looking in
    yu do realize who created these voids? At least in Egypt is was Obama's doing.
    Obama simply misplayed Syria, with red lines and "Assad must go". Libya's "void" he absolutely owns

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to dukkha For This Post:

    Stretch (12-11-2017)

  17. #12 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Obama laid the void ground work and America First doesn’t equal isolationism. Also, you should at least give Trump some credit for not being a regime change addict.

    You goof balls and your absurd Russian obsession has hamstrung Trump from doing anything constructive with them.
    Russiaphobia by goofballs

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to dukkha For This Post:

    Darth Omar (12-11-2017)

  19. #13 | Top
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Location
    land-locked in Ocala,FL
    Posts
    27,321
    Thanks
    30,862
    Thanked 16,758 Times in 11,557 Posts
    Groans
    1,063
    Groaned 889 Times in 847 Posts

    Default

    I read some things about Erdogan some time back. I believe he said something to the effect that he believes Israel's defense of itself is worse than the Holocaust.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



  20. #14 | Top
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    49,883
    Thanks
    14,463
    Thanked 32,101 Times in 21,165 Posts
    Groans
    6
    Groaned 1,307 Times in 1,235 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I read some things about Erdogan some time back. I believe he said something to the effect that he believes Israel's defense of itself is worse than the Holocaust.
    Erdogan is an Islamist who famously stated that ‘democracy is a train and you get off at your destination’.

    The ‘destination’ for Erdogan is sharia.
    Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017

  21. The Following User Says Thank You to Darth Omar For This Post:

    dukkha (12-12-2017)

  22. #15 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2017
    Posts
    43,479
    Thanks
    12,574
    Thanked 23,756 Times in 16,563 Posts
    Groans
    249
    Groaned 1,622 Times in 1,532 Posts

    Default

    Turkey was always solidly in NATO, now i'm not all that sure going forward....

Similar Threads

  1. Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt & Bahrain cut ties with Qatar
    By cancel2 2022 in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 54
    Last Post: 06-06-2017, 03:18 PM
  2. Russia/Turkey to allow USA in on Syria talks
    By anatta in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-13-2017, 05:54 AM
  3. China seeks closer military ties with Syria
    By Bill in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-19-2016, 12:13 AM
  4. Turkey Shoots Down Russian Warplane Near Border With Syria
    By ChoppedLiver in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 11-26-2015, 05:37 AM
  5. China Creates Closer Economic Ties with Africa
    By wordcreatorushtwf in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-07-2009, 09:35 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •